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Old 04-26-2019, 10:45 AM   #1
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What are your thoughts on Hakeem Butler?

Tricky question.

I like him. He's got good speed for his size, but doesn't have elite speed by any means. He doesn't have to be wide open because he will just body up and make grabs, go over top of DB's, etc.

I'm probably biased though because I'm an ISU fan.

The question is whether someone without elite speed helps Mahomes. It seems like one of the main reasons Tyreek was so lethal, is that he was paired with a guy who has a big arm. Big arm + elite speed worked for us. It allowed us to stretch the field, which helped Kelce, RB's, Sammy, etc.

Butler can stretch the field, but in a different way. The DB might be running step for step with him, but Butler will go up and grab it and there's no way to stop a 6'6" dude like that from snatching it up.

He did run a 4.48 at the combine, so in no way am I saying he's slow. He's just not like Tyreek at all.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:43 AM   #2
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If we were to draft a WR I think Deebo Samuel is a good choice and Parris Campbell is probably the closest thing to Tyreek we could hope for.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:45 AM   #3
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If we were to draft a WR I think Deebo Samuel is a good choice and Parris Campbell is probably the closest thing to Tyreek we could hope for.
Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:46 AM   #4
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I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:46 AM   #5
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Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.
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I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.
I was a minute too late.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #6
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I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.

I don't know man. Parris has a lot of similarities. Track guy who was a running back. Ran a 4.3 and misused in college. He doesn't demonstrate the tracking ability of Hill and isn't quite as strong but then again instead of beating up babies he is a team captain and sociology major.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:47 AM   #7
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:51 AM   #8
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Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.
I realize that. Hill is a one of a kind WR. Samuel and Campbell are my choices for the Chiefs. I think Campbell could be good with all the pre-snap motion stuff the Hill does and would be the best fit for the Chiefs.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #9
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Don’t think anyone is expecting Hill to be replaced—but you look at that list in the OP, there are a LOT of fast guys who could at least do some of the horizontal motion stuff that Reek did. If they want that to remain in their offense to a large degree.

I have ZERO doubts that Andy Reid will use a scheme that best fits whoever his receivers are. But I also know that they’re going to want a burner to stretch the field badly. You need that with Mahomes because his arm is a threat from anywhere.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #10
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Just because we can't find a Tyreek doesn't mean we can't find another really good receiver. I trust Andy and Veach to find a good WR that can fit into our offense if they deem it necessary.

Preferably no more guys with personality disorders or child/woman beaters please.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:59 AM   #11
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I trust Andy and Veach to find a good WR that can fit into our offense if they deem it necessary.
I think if Andy and Veach didn't have a Plan B as soon as this whole mess started then we're in trouble.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:46 AM   #12
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Just because we can't find a Tyreek doesn't mean we can't find another really good receiver. I trust Andy and Veach to find a good WR that can fit into our offense if they deem it necessary.

Preferably no more guys with personality disorders or child/woman beaters please.
The number of "really good receivers" in this draft was limited to begin with, and they aren't going to be available on day 2.

That the Chiefs are/were incapable of keeping an ear to the ground and knowing what was about to transpire with Hill does absolutely nothing to instill any confidence in me going forward in to todays draft proceedings.

They'd be better off sticking to their original board and seeing what shakes out after the draft, and watching who's coming and going on the wire once camp starts.

Sad, but if you don't prepare for the worst, you can't execute a good contingency plan. And these guys completely went to sleep on their watch.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:56 AM   #13
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Maybe a pipe dream but does Veach get on the phone with Cincinnati now about AJ Green?
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Sorry, he's a RB. Not interested until tomorrow.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:12 AM   #15
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