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Old 04-26-2019, 08:46 AM  
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Let’s talk about ways to get this team back on the Super Bowl track tonight

First off, I’m operating under the assumption that we’ve seen Tyreek Hill play his final snap in KC as of right now. And barring unforeseen news to come, that is how it needs to be. If you choose to believe otherwise, that’s your call. But for the sake of being realistic, Hill is a goner.

I won’t understate that blow. He’s been the most explosive playmaker in the NFL for 2-3 years now. He changes the game unlike anyone else. He will not be replaced.

But that doesn’t mean that this team can’t find other ways to get back on track. So here is what I am looking at heading into Friday night:

1. Mahomes means we’re still in a good spot

Let us not forget that Patrick looked ****ing awesome in his first start in Denver with nothing but backups around him. He basically got Albert Wilson a 50% raise that day, I would say. Things will get tougher for him and the offense now, but he can still carry us to being a top 10 offense at minimum. We still have some star playmakers on the roster and an above average offensive line. Now onto the draft....

2. Lots of good, athletic receivers left

Here is a list of some of the best WR prospects remaining along with their 40-yard dash times to the right. I think Andy will want to add a field stretching WR to this roster in order to best match up with Mahomes, so speed is very important:

- Parris Campbell (4.31)
- Andy Isabella (4.31)
- Mecole Hardman (4.33)
- D.K. Metcalf (4.33)
- Terry McClaurin (4.35)
- Emmanuel Hall (4.39)
- Darius Slayton (4.39)
- Myles Boykin (4.42 and some FREAKY agility times as well)
- Hakeem Butler (4.48)
- Deebo Samuel (4.48 and just a stud in general)
- A.J. Brown (4.49, stud player like Samuel)

Point being, there are some really athletic players left at WR who, while not close to Hill, could still come in day one and present a vertical threat for Mahomes and Andy to work with.

3. Lots of good corners and safeties remain as well

Another huge need that has some depth here on day two... here are some solid players available:

- Byron Murphy
- Greedy Williams
- Amani Oruwariye
- Rock Ya-Sin
- Joejuan Williams
- Sean Bunting
- Justin Layne
- Julian Love
- Trayvon Mullen
- Lonnie Johnson Jr.
- Nasir Adderley
- Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
- Taylor Rapp
- Juan Thornhill

And even a few more who could make an impact potentially from day one. If the Chiefs want to build up the defense even more to take pressure off of the offense this year, options remain...

4. Possible established trade targets?

I doubt it happens but we’ve still got possible veteran fixes out there such as Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... not sure if their teams would trade them right now, but its possible... and even if not, they may do so during the summer.

So tonight, the Chiefs should have a great chance to stock up on talent that can help immediately in 2019. They could go WR/CB/TE straight up, they could take two WRs even to hedge their bets there with a DB or TE later, or they could use picks to go get an established veteran today... who really knows.

This team isn’t dead yet, though. Let’s see where things are later. Even with Hill on his way out, Kansas City can reset and contend with the right moves, IMO.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:51 AM   #76
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Trying to "replace" Hill is a fool's errand. He's a generational talent.

They need to focus on getting good WR's. Not the next Tyreek Hill.
I realize that. Hill is a one of a kind WR. Samuel and Campbell are my choices for the Chiefs. I think Campbell could be good with all the pre-snap motion stuff the Hill does and would be the best fit for the Chiefs.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #77
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I really wish people would stop with the "we need to find a Hill replacement". There isn't one. Go draft the best WR out there and change your offense.

I don't know man. Parris has a lot of similarities. Track guy who was a running back. Ran a 4.3 and misused in college. He doesn't demonstrate the tracking ability of Hill and isn't quite as strong but then again instead of beating up babies he is a team captain and sociology major.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #78
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Don’t think anyone is expecting Hill to be replaced—but you look at that list in the OP, there are a LOT of fast guys who could at least do some of the horizontal motion stuff that Reek did. If they want that to remain in their offense to a large degree.

I have ZERO doubts that Andy Reid will use a scheme that best fits whoever his receivers are. But I also know that they’re going to want a burner to stretch the field badly. You need that with Mahomes because his arm is a threat from anywhere.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:55 AM   #79
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Just because we can't find a Tyreek doesn't mean we can't find another really good receiver. I trust Andy and Veach to find a good WR that can fit into our offense if they deem it necessary.

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Old 04-26-2019, 10:56 AM   #80
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Maybe a pipe dream but does Veach get on the phone with Cincinnati now about AJ Green?
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:59 AM   #81
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I trust Andy and Veach to find a good WR that can fit into our offense if they deem it necessary.
I think if Andy and Veach didn't have a Plan B as soon as this whole mess started then we're in trouble.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:04 AM   #82
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Obviously not but they do need a field stretcher. With Mahomes it is critical I would say.
I did a full analysis of all avail. Youtube vids last night on Deebo. I feel like I need to pump the brakes on Deebo a little. He's more of a utility guy; I think it'd make sense if we needed a KR as well. I'm not sure he's not Robinson's upside. I'd like to see us focus on on AJ Brown or Campbell.
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:04 AM   #83
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I did a full analysis of all avail. Youtube vids last night on Deebo. I feel like I need to pump the brakes on Deebo a little. He's more of a utility guy; I think it'd make sense if we needed a KR as well. I'm not sure he's not Robinson's upside. I'd like to see us focus on on AJ Brown or Campbell.
I see Deebo as a pure slot Jarvis Landry type. Nothing wrong with that, but no, not a deep threat really by nature.
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If we could work a deal to get PP w/ some of next drafts' picks - I'd be perfectly fine w/ Justice Hill in the 3rd. Should he fall (& I think he might)
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:06 AM   #85
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I see Deebo as a pure slot Jarvis Landry type. Nothing wrong with that, but no, not a deep threat really by nature.
agreed and I was disillusioned due to his big KR's last season. Back peddling over here.
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Sorry, he's a RB. Not interested until tomorrow.
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oh that's okay hun!
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Isabella and Hardman are interesting but so small and Hardman is anything but. Weak as shit.

I like Isabella I just pause at 5'8. He's very very fast though. I wouldn't hate it.
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