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Old 04-26-2019, 08:46 AM  
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Let’s talk about ways to get this team back on the Super Bowl track tonight

First off, I’m operating under the assumption that we’ve seen Tyreek Hill play his final snap in KC as of right now. And barring unforeseen news to come, that is how it needs to be. If you choose to believe otherwise, that’s your call. But for the sake of being realistic, Hill is a goner.

I won’t understate that blow. He’s been the most explosive playmaker in the NFL for 2-3 years now. He changes the game unlike anyone else. He will not be replaced.

But that doesn’t mean that this team can’t find other ways to get back on track. So here is what I am looking at heading into Friday night:

1. Mahomes means we’re still in a good spot

Let us not forget that Patrick looked ****ing awesome in his first start in Denver with nothing but backups around him. He basically got Albert Wilson a 50% raise that day, I would say. Things will get tougher for him and the offense now, but he can still carry us to being a top 10 offense at minimum. We still have some star playmakers on the roster and an above average offensive line. Now onto the draft....

2. Lots of good, athletic receivers left

Here is a list of some of the best WR prospects remaining along with their 40-yard dash times to the right. I think Andy will want to add a field stretching WR to this roster in order to best match up with Mahomes, so speed is very important:

- Parris Campbell (4.31)
- Andy Isabella (4.31)
- Mecole Hardman (4.33)
- D.K. Metcalf (4.33)
- Terry McClaurin (4.35)
- Emmanuel Hall (4.39)
- Darius Slayton (4.39)
- Myles Boykin (4.42 and some FREAKY agility times as well)
- Hakeem Butler (4.48)
- Deebo Samuel (4.48 and just a stud in general)
- A.J. Brown (4.49, stud player like Samuel)

Point being, there are some really athletic players left at WR who, while not close to Hill, could still come in day one and present a vertical threat for Mahomes and Andy to work with.

3. Lots of good corners and safeties remain as well

Another huge need that has some depth here on day two... here are some solid players available:

- Byron Murphy
- Greedy Williams
- Amani Oruwariye
- Rock Ya-Sin
- Joejuan Williams
- Sean Bunting
- Justin Layne
- Julian Love
- Trayvon Mullen
- Lonnie Johnson Jr.
- Nasir Adderley
- Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
- Taylor Rapp
- Juan Thornhill

And even a few more who could make an impact potentially from day one. If the Chiefs want to build up the defense even more to take pressure off of the offense this year, options remain...

4. Possible established trade targets?

I doubt it happens but we’ve still got possible veteran fixes out there such as Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... not sure if their teams would trade them right now, but its possible... and even if not, they may do so during the summer.

So tonight, the Chiefs should have a great chance to stock up on talent that can help immediately in 2019. They could go WR/CB/TE straight up, they could take two WRs even to hedge their bets there with a DB or TE later, or they could use picks to go get an established veteran today... who really knows.

This team isn’t dead yet, though. Let’s see where things are later. Even with Hill on his way out, Kansas City can reset and contend with the right moves, IMO.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:09 AM   #46
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Take D.K. Metcalf please. He will be this team's version of Calvin Johnson. Metcalf can only run a few routes but so did CJ. We need speed and he has speed AND power.

To truck down anyone that gets in his way and to go up and snatch anything that is higher than the DBs can get to.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:10 AM   #47
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I think your assessment in the OP is the way to look at it. As much as I hated going after a WR in the 2nd, things change so I have to change the way I see things. If there's a burner with hands available at 61, you take him. Add a CB/S at 63 and a TE in the 3rd. Go a 1 year deal on a FA WR and stock up next year.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:11 AM   #48
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We need to take the BAP from the following positions: WR, DB, LB, OL, TE

This needs to be a productive draft for us, period. Losing Hunt and Hill means our margin for error went down significantly for this draft.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:13 AM   #49
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Defense and run game.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:20 AM   #50
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Defense and run game.


Yep, there are more ways to win in the NFL besides having a historically great offense.

In fact, history tells us having some balance by playing solid defense, and being able to win physical games is a great way to win a SB.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:23 AM   #51
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Yep, there are more ways to win in the NFL besides having a historically great offense.

In fact, history tells us having some balance by playing solid defense, and being able to win physical games is a great way to win a SB.
Depends on what you mean by "run game".

If they want to draft an interior lineman tonight, great.

If they draft a RB tonight, that's just dumb.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:24 AM   #52
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I look at our RB stable right now and wonder why we need to add anyone, especially in the mid to late rounds. True enough, we all got spoiled with Hunt, but I just don't think we should overlook other needs for a RB.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:30 AM   #53
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I look at our RB stable right now and wonder why we need to add anyone, especially in the mid to late rounds. True enough, we all got spoiled with Hunt, but I just don't think we should overlook other needs for a RB.
Nothing wrong with drafting a RB in the later rounds.

This team has pretty strong needs at several other positions and these 3 picks tonight are premium picks, given that the depth in this draft lines up almost exactly with the Chiefs needs. Drafting a RB would basically be flushing pick value down the toilet.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:32 AM   #54
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That's the right attitude!

I agree that Tyreek was a really unusual talent, but **** it, he's gone, what do we do now?

I like your WR list a lot; with Mahomes, all things are possible, so your sub 4.5 and especially sub 4.4 guys are all on the menu, I'm sure.

I don't think we need to panic and jump up; I think several of these guys are going to fall to us and we'll need that #3 pick too.

Love your CB list as well, and several of those guys are going to be there as well. I think other than Greedy, most of these guys are essentially interchangeable.

And a Kahale Warring in the 3rd gives Andy and Pat a new toy for next season, those 2 TE sets could be deadly.

We're still in good shape. There's a ton of talent here. And don't forget, the idea was to build a GOOD defense, and so while there are still issues there, we should be drastically improved on that side of the ball. Maybe a little more balance as an overall team Can put us in the 'bowl.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:32 AM   #55
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Nothing wrong with drafting a RB in the later rounds.

This team has pretty strong needs at several other positions and these 3 picks tonight are premium picks, given that the depth in this draft lines up almost exactly with the Chiefs needs. Drafting a RB would basically be flushing pick value down the toilet.
Yeah....Veach is a moron if he drafts a RB tonight.
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:32 AM   #56
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Depends on what you mean by "run game".

If they want to draft an interior lineman tonight, great.

If they draft a RB tonight, that's just dumb.


Yeah I'm not advocating drafting a RB in the second round.

I posted this in a previous post:

"We need to take the BAP from the following positions: WR, DB, LB, OL, TE"


Those are the positions where we can benefit from drafting a productive player. We have too many other holes or future needs to worry about drafting a RB high.
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My apologies if already mentioned - but a LOT of our offense's success relies upon pre-snap motion with Tyreek (the threat of the jet sweep, etc.).

While Mahomes is everything we could ever want and more - losing Tyreek is a huge blow to our offense (especially with Watkins' inability to stay on the field).

I know tyreeks dont grow on trees, but we need something semi-close to maintain stability in what Andy likes to accomplish with the offense
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:33 AM   #58
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Veach ain’t drafting a RB!! Also to get Metcalf we would have to trade up
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:34 AM   #59
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I've seen a lot of not so great post and false narratives around here but one of the worst is those saying Chiefs are done with out Hill.
Teams have been winning super bowls with out Hill every year.
There is also no guarantee the Chiefs even would have got there with him.
Yes, he is a difference maker and we won't be able to replace Tyreek's overall game, but stop with the Chiefs can't win with out him.
Thanks for this thread. We have future HOF QB, lets enjoy this time and be optimistic about the future years and stop crying over a guy that is a bad human being
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