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Old 06-06-2019, 04:41 AM  
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What is Trevor Lawrence worth?
I think this kid is the next "generational" QB along with Mahomes....albeit different playing styles. I really hope he gets drafted to the NFC.

His highlight reel...in which he's a freshman, is pretty fantastic. To play like that, a year removed from high school,...yikes.

What is he worth in draft capital?...hypothetically, if the #1 (drafting) team just chose a top QB the year before?

Two entire drafts? 3-4 first round picks?

What would Mahomes go for...if teams knew he was a 50 TD QB?

A generational QB can define your franchise....for like 15 years.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:45 AM   #61
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Comparing that to you Mahomes doing in in the NFL against the Pats (2x), Ravens, and Chargers (2x) is completely different.

Have we seen Lawrence under consistent pressure and facing adversity? No.

I’ve already said he was a great QB prospect. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some of you to get.
How many college qbs do? It's a system built around lots of poor competition often capped with a boring bowl game. Most qbs are out of playoff contention by the end of the first month. Do you really think Eli showed his ability to work under pressure? Did Andrew luck really have signature big games? Of course we'll need a larger sample size, but when you're talking "can't miss" qb prospects, you can't wait for the absolute flawless qb.

This reminds me of the Parcells rules. The reason it's failed miserably the past decade. If you put too many rules in place you stop trusting your eyes. Lawrence has popped off the page in ways guys like Haskins and soon to be Tua haven't. These guys also had outstanding supporting casts.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:48 AM   #62
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:02 AM   #63
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He hasn't lost in 52 straight games....going back to HS. Jesus...that's insane.
That's...….I don't know the word for that.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:14 AM   #65
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He's as good of a prospect as any but he's proven nothing. Watson did the same shit at Clemson and he's not a generational talent.
Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:23 AM   #66
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Chiefs get Miami’s 1st overall pick, next years 2nd and 2021s 2nd + Devonte Parker

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Apologies for annoying you, esteemed college QB whisperer.
huh?

Have you never heard that line before?
Where someone says "Great minds think alike." and another person says "so do simple ones".

No slit meant. Just a funny line.
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Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.
I see that you have your narrative. That means you're not willing to accept other points of view without bias. It's always the same with you. You really should just post and then debate / argue with yourself. It will save all of us a lot of time.
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How many college qbs do? It's a system built around lots of poor competition often capped with a boring bowl game. Most qbs are out of playoff contention by the end of the first month. Do you really think Eli showed his ability to work under pressure? Did Andrew luck really have signature big games? Of course we'll need a larger sample size, but when you're talking "can't miss" qb prospects, you can't wait for the absolute flawless qb.

This reminds me of the Parcells rules. The reason it's failed miserably the past decade. If you put too many rules in place you stop trusting your eyes. Lawrence has popped off the page in ways guys like Haskins and soon to be Tua haven't. These guys also had outstanding supporting casts.
Dude, you still don’t get it. I said he’s a great QB prospect. He should and will be the #1 pick in 2021. Why do you continue to act like I’m saying he’s not good or he’s going to fail? How many times do I have to say this before it gets through your head?

And no, most cfb QB’s deal with more pressure and adversity with less talent than he did last year. This isn’t even debatable.

Look at Mahomes vs. LSU. That game told me more about Mahomes than any of the rest. It was by far his most impressive despite it being a blowout loss and not his best game statistically by any means.

I was fully on board with him despite not seeing that game until after we drafted him. I didn’t watch any of his sophomore tape so I had no idea it existed. If I watched it before the draft, I would’ve been pounding the table that much harder.
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Thrashing an outstanding Alabama team is certainly not nothing. If Watson and Lawrence did the same shit, then why was Watson not top 10 where Lawrence is already considered a #1 pick even if he was drafted this year. Clearly most people can see that they won in very different ways. Not even close to the same shit.
Anyone that isn't blind can see Lawrence is a MUCH better NFL prospect. I mean c'mon!
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I see that you have your narrative. That means you're not willing to accept other points of view without bias. It's always the same with you. You really should just post and then debate / argue with yourself. It will save all of us a lot of time.
I'm confused about what my narrative is
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Anyone that isn't blind can see Lawrence is a MUCH better NFL prospect. I mean c'mon!
And literally nobody in this thread said he wasn’t the better prospect.

Seriously, do some of you lack even elementary school level reading comprehension?
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:22 PM   #75
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Anyone comparing Watson to Lawrence hasn’t watched them play. They are completely different QB’s. The only thing they have in common is that they both play(ed) for Clemson.

It is like comparing Jamal Charles to Christian Okoye because Chiefs
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