In case anyone hadn't decided on the KC Star yet

[DJ's left nut]

They're doubling down and hiding behind an 'editorial board' byline so nobody has to put their name on this shit.

https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/e...mpression=true

Now that the full 11-minute recording of Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill and his now former fiancee, Crystal Espinal, talking about violence in their relationship has been aired, many fans are saying wow, this changes everything.

It does? That Hill, who didn’t know Espinal was taping him, denies ever hitting her or their son in what he thought was a private conversation is neither surprising nor exculpatory.

Abusers typically tell not only the police but friends, family, therapists, priests and even themselves they’ve never done anything wrong.

And if anything, the fact that Hill now says he didn’t hit punch or choke Espinal in 2014 makes him look worse rather than better. He pleaded guilty to those charges, publicly apologized, went through extensive therapy and declared himself reformed after probation. If he’s now back to saying that none of this ever happened, that’s not just a lie but a worrying one.

“I didn’t touch you in 2014,” he says on the tape. “And put that on everything I love, bro. That’s the real truth.”

That Espinal isn’t screaming at him that no, it’s not the truth, real or otherwise, is taken by some supporters as proof that he is innocent.

But why a woman who has been injured by him before and he’s threatening to hurt again might not do that should be obvious.


When she instead repeatedly asks him where her bruises came from if he never hit her, he doesn’t answer because there isn’t an answer that he likes well enough to repeat.

On Thursday, Espinal filed a petition in Johnson County seeking a paternity test for their newborn twins. She has full custody of them — they live with her — and she is asking for child support and only supervised visits for Hill. Her lawyer in the matter is legal counsel for SAFEHOME, a Johnson County group that supports survivors of domestic violence.

The NFL, meanwhile, seems ready to let Hill off with a brief suspension because the legal case against him isn’t going anywhere, but these things are still true:

Hill’s son was removed from his home after a child abuse investigation was launched. The Johnson County district attorney said the 3-year-old child had been hurt, but he didn’t have enough proof to prosecute.

On the tape, we heard Hill threaten the mother of his children with physical violence: “You need to be scared of me, too, dumb bitch.” He berates and belittles, calls her “bro” and “bitch” and of course, claims she ruined his life.

Denial of all wrongdoing is so standard in abuse cases that just a look at Thursday’s Star provides other examples, including that of Scott Hacker, the now former Parkville police officer charged with domestic violence after allegedly shooting his gun inside his home, throwing the woman who called 911 onto the couch, grabbing her by the throat and blaming her for “ending his career” by calling for help. Both before and after the cops arrived, he said he hadn’t shot the gun or touched her. But oops: A security camera in the living room apparently recorded the assault.

What Espinal was trying to get was the audio equivalent of that video.

If the NFL lets Hill back on the field this season, it will send the message that making threats and showing you’ve learned nothing from probation is no real problem, as long as you can run fast enough. The help he needs is not more denial, but just the opposite.

To the rest of you who are intent on seeing Hill as the victim, KCTV as a villain for not immediately releasing the full tape, and Espinal as a “manipulator” for wanting evidence to back her up in court, we could suggest some reading on the well-researched subject of abuse. But why, when you seem to prefer not to know?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The whole orgs do not deserve to suffer for this.

Dani and Tom are KCTV5 are really good at their jobs.

Sam and Vahe are pretty fair - they were just deceived originally like a lot of us.

Accountability just needs to be served. This should never happen again in this town.

Media got in bed with CRIMINALS and DEADBEATS and kept doubling down on it and nearly ruined an innocent man.

An example must be made.

YOU DO NOT ABUSE YOUR POWER LIKE THIS.

I think the whole organizations are pretty rotten to the core. If they go out of business, it'll make room for better-run businesses to form and grow.

[FAX]

The free-verse idea would never work, headlines the next day would frighten people to death.

"Chris Jones Accuses Pizza Restaurant Of Ganymede Accords! FBI Notified."

FAX

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by FAX

The free-verse idea would never work, headlines the next day would frighten people to death.

"Chris Jones Accuses Pizza Restaurant Of Ganymede Accords! FBI Notified."

FAX

Good point. I could see KCTV5 and the Star twisting into some anti-Jovian thing.

Actually, maybe the most fun approach would be to always answer their questions in one word, just to turn the other reporters against them.


Good reporter: Mr. Player, tell me about the first touchdown you scored.

Player: It was great. I ... (60 second quoteworthy statement).

Reporter from Sleazeball Star: Mr. Player, can you tell us about the second touchdown?

Player: (Shrug.) Great.

Good reporter: Mr. Player, how about the key block in the third?

Player: What a play that was. I ... (60 second quoteworthy statement).

Reporter from Sleazeball KCTV5: Mr. Player, what did you think about the tipped pass?

Player: (Shrug.) Good.

[RINGLEADER]

Don’t have time to go thru 23 pages but that editorial was first attributed to Mellinger before it was switched to the editorial board.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It goes beyond just the sports section, the entire KC Star newspaper has decided to declare war on Tyreek, led by the Editorial Board.

But I guess that is to be expected when the Editorial Page Editor was recently elected to the hall of fame of an organization whose stated mission is to "practice intersectional trans-inclusive feminism".

I certainly did not know that, yeah... it explains many things

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Don’t have time to go thru 23 pages but that editorial was first attributed to Mellinger before it was switched to the editorial board.

Seriously? Link?

That would be a rat fink thing to do.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Don’t have time to go thru 23 pages but that editorial was first attributed to Mellinger before it was switched to the editorial board.

There's just no way. Not his writing style.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It goes beyond just the sports section, the entire KC Star newspaper has decided to declare war on Tyreek, led by the Editorial Board.

But I guess that is to be expected when the Editorial Page Editor was recently elected to the hall of fame of an organization whose stated mission is to "practice intersectional trans-inclusive feminism".

Couple more things:

I'm still just stunned that the op/ed did not even acknowledge the fact that the tape does create doubt about the 2014 incident. A reasonable person could still think he did it; however, a reasonable person would accept there is real doubt now.

The trans-inclusive feminist used to be a White House correspondent. Think about that a minute. Think she was objective covering the White House? The news media is full of SJW activists masquerading as objective reporters. Miss trans-inclusive feminist is a great example. What a shit show the U.S. media is.

[RINGLEADER]

I may have it backwards — here was the post:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...postcount=2106

[RINGLEADER]

If you Google “Chiefs must cut Tyreek Hill if battery allegation is proven” you’ll see how they changed the headline and attribution but it was from Star editorial board to Mellinger.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The whole orgs do not deserve to suffer for this.

Dani and Tom are KCTV5 are really good at their jobs.

Sam and Vahe are pretty fair - they were just deceived originally like a lot of us.

Accountability just needs to be served. This should never happen again in this town.

Media got in bed with CRIMINALS and DEADBEATS and kept doubling down on it and nearly ruined an innocent man.

An example must be made.

YOU DO NOT ABUSE YOUR POWER LIKE THIS.

Sam and vahe are garbage, just like 60% of Chief Fan.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It goes beyond just the sports section, the entire KC Star newspaper has decided to declare war on Tyreek, led by the Editorial Board.

But I guess that is to be expected when the Editorial Page Editor was recently elected to the hall of fame of an organization whose stated mission is to "practice intersectional trans-inclusive feminism".

I'm surprised that people are willing to be that literally pathetic in this life. Really? Your goal in life is to join the absolute worst collection of deviant, idiotic, perpetually miserable idiots and morons in some big freak parade to oblivion?

[Hammock Parties]

Someone really needs to get fired.

I used the Robocop clip but I wanna use the scanners clip too.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

ratS

[Hammock Parties]

Didn’t they just get done bragging on air about getting someone thrown in jail? Seems more harsh than fired but that might be just me.

— J.C. (@rock_climber02) July 13, 2019