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Old 07-12-2019, 06:57 AM  
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They're doubling down and hiding behind an 'editorial board' byline so nobody has to put their name on this shit.

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Now that the full 11-minute recording of Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill and his now former fiancee, Crystal Espinal, talking about violence in their relationship has been aired, many fans are saying wow, this changes everything.

It does? That Hill, who didn’t know Espinal was taping him, denies ever hitting her or their son in what he thought was a private conversation is neither surprising nor exculpatory.

Abusers typically tell not only the police but friends, family, therapists, priests and even themselves they’ve never done anything wrong.

And if anything, the fact that Hill now says he didn’t hit punch or choke Espinal in 2014 makes him look worse rather than better. He pleaded guilty to those charges, publicly apologized, went through extensive therapy and declared himself reformed after probation. If he’s now back to saying that none of this ever happened, that’s not just a lie but a worrying one.

“I didn’t touch you in 2014,” he says on the tape. “And put that on everything I love, bro. That’s the real truth.”

That Espinal isn’t screaming at him that no, it’s not the truth, real or otherwise, is taken by some supporters as proof that he is innocent.

But why a woman who has been injured by him before and he’s threatening to hurt again might not do that should be obvious.


When she instead repeatedly asks him where her bruises came from if he never hit her, he doesn’t answer because there isn’t an answer that he likes well enough to repeat.

On Thursday, Espinal filed a petition in Johnson County seeking a paternity test for their newborn twins. She has full custody of them — they live with her — and she is asking for child support and only supervised visits for Hill. Her lawyer in the matter is legal counsel for SAFEHOME, a Johnson County group that supports survivors of domestic violence.

The NFL, meanwhile, seems ready to let Hill off with a brief suspension because the legal case against him isn’t going anywhere, but these things are still true:

Hill’s son was removed from his home after a child abuse investigation was launched. The Johnson County district attorney said the 3-year-old child had been hurt, but he didn’t have enough proof to prosecute.

On the tape, we heard Hill threaten the mother of his children with physical violence: “You need to be scared of me, too, dumb bitch.” He berates and belittles, calls her “bro” and “bitch” and of course, claims she ruined his life.

Denial of all wrongdoing is so standard in abuse cases that just a look at Thursday’s Star provides other examples, including that of Scott Hacker, the now former Parkville police officer charged with domestic violence after allegedly shooting his gun inside his home, throwing the woman who called 911 onto the couch, grabbing her by the throat and blaming her for “ending his career” by calling for help. Both before and after the cops arrived, he said he hadn’t shot the gun or touched her. But oops: A security camera in the living room apparently recorded the assault.

What Espinal was trying to get was the audio equivalent of that video.

If the NFL lets Hill back on the field this season, it will send the message that making threats and showing you’ve learned nothing from probation is no real problem, as long as you can run fast enough. The help he needs is not more denial, but just the opposite.

To the rest of you who are intent on seeing Hill as the victim, KCTV as a villain for not immediately releasing the full tape, and Espinal as a “manipulator” for wanting evidence to back her up in court, we could suggest some reading on the well-researched subject of abuse. But why, when you seem to prefer not to know?
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:15 PM   #436
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:31 PM   #437
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My e-mail to Colleen McCain Nelson, KC Star Editorial Page Editor:
They know EXACTLY what they are doing...it isn't an accident. It's a premeditated agenda..

They got their golden unicorn to pin it on in Hill...a black male superstar from the local football team.

They are deliberately ignoring anything that shows a female in a negative light....they will never mention extortion, psychiatric conditions or lying.

They are doubling down on that agenda even as it defies logic or critical thought..

They hired Fat Brooke to sell it...it's the only reason she has a job.

This isn't news or journalism....it's a covert social programming attempt with veiled racism undertones. They think sport fans are too stupid to understand the manipulation....

They need to burn...they are evil
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:43 PM   #441
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In my potentially myopic opinion, the best course of action (based on the result as it pertains to the current atmosphere of the conversation)

Is to let sleeping dogs lie (apologies in advance for for using dated idioms)

The Chiefs won

Tyreek won

Move on; getting pissed at a failing news outlet that is clearly not worthy of respect after they completely botched a story that carries on with utter cognitive dissonance doesn't deserve the attention...

Let the local media writhe in their mistake as they attempt to pull their heads above water...

Ignore the noise...

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Far as I am concerned the star can shut there doors. That building space can be leased by the USDA as temporary office space to house the DC transfers till a suitable building constructed. Then bulldoze it!
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