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Old 07-22-2019, 02:53 PM   #1
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I thought that, but with the timing and such i'm not sure.

You probably can't do a deal now, with all the stuff that's happened and the PR hit etc. So you've gotta wait til mid season or after the season. Well, if he blows up and goes for another 1500 and 10 TD's, I doubt there's a discount to be had.
Even then I still don’t think Hill’s contract demands with be as unreasonable as Ramsey’s.

We’re talking about a guy that said “they’re going to have to pay me so much, they’ll have to put me on layaway”.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:55 PM   #2
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Even then I still don’t think Hill’s contract demands with be as unreasonable as Ramsey’s.

We’re talking about a guy that said “they’re going to have to pay me so much, they’ll have to put me on layaway”.
For sure.

But again, if Tyreek is going to want 20 mil per that was rumored earlier, eh, i'd imagine they're both gonna be pretty big.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:03 PM   #3
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:14 PM   #4
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:21 PM   #5
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EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
1 lock down corner isn't going to be able to take away half the field with us..and the speed we poses now. With all the different formations we run .. he will have to concentrate more on one man running by him. Lots of slant routs will be open. Kelce is going to have a monster year this year.
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EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.
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In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.
It also wouldn't hurt to have a CB who can line up and cover everywhere and be an elite guy at doing it.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:38 PM   #8
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The only WR that has any real value to extract right now is Tyreek.

To be honest, I’d trade him for Ramsey right now....we’ll, maybe after the opener.
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.
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Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.
I think I agree.

My think with Tyreek is just the off field stuff and what is he gonna want in a contract.
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