Skins cut Mason Foster

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Potential reward is worth the risk especially since we're so close to a SB.

That's a different argument.

But if we torch $2.5 million in cap space on Foster and he's a 10% improvement on Ragland for the 15 snaps/gm that Ragland's likely to play, that's NOT a good use of that cap space, not when it could be rolled into cap credits for next year instead.

This is a fine argument to have in favor of bringing in Lee - there could be a real upgrade there if O'Daniel can't be trusted in space. But Foster and Ragland would both play a nominal role in this defense as neither can be trusted in coverage and Ragland's fine when he's coming downhill.

At best I'd give him the CJ Spiller treatment. I'd have him in camp, cut him prior to week 1 and then re-sign him after week 1 when NFL veterans salaries are no longer guaranteed. Then if he continues to show better than Ragland in limited use, I'd keep him and cut Ragland. But I'd be extremely reluctant to guarantee money to a marginal 'thumper' linebacker who's role here will be fairly small and who's on the wrong side of 30.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's a different argument.

But if we torch $2.5 million in cap space on Foster and he's a 10% improvement on Ragland for the 15 snaps/gm that Ragland's likely to play, that's NOT a good use of that cap space, not when it could be rolled into cap credits for next year instead.

This is a fine argument to have in favor of bringing in Lee - there could be a real upgrade there if O'Daniel can't be trusted in space. But Foster and Ragland would both play a nominal role in this defense as neither can be trusted in coverage and Ragland's fine when he's coming downhill.

At best I'd give him the CJ Spiller treatment. I'd have him in camp, cut him prior to week 1 and then re-sign him after week 1 when NFL veterans salaries are no longer guaranteed. Then if he continues to show better than Ragland in limited use, I'd keep him and cut Ragland. But I'd be extremely reluctant to guarantee money to a marginal 'thumper' linebacker who's role here will be fairly small and who's on the wrong side of 30.

I'm in agreement with you for the most part.

I have no idea what kind of deal Foster will receive. Maybe he would be open to no guarantees in order to sign with a potential SB winning team. If so, as you said, you sign him no problem.

I still wouldn't have a problem taking a bit of a risk and giving him some guaranteed money to compete with Ragland. If he beats out Ragland, then you cut him and recoup some of the money you gave to Foster.

I just don't have a good feeling about our LB corps. They are by far the worst positional group on our defense and I'm willing to gamble in order to improve that position.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by New World Order

I'm in agreement with you for the most part.

I have no idea what kind of deal Foster will receive. Maybe he would be open to no guarantees in order to sign with a potential SB winning team. If so, as you said, you sign him no problem.

I still wouldn't have a problem taking a bit of a risk and giving him some guaranteed money to compete with Ragland. If he beats out Ragland, then you cut him and recoup some of the money you gave to Foster.

I just don't have a good feeling about our LB corps. They are by far the worst positional group on our defense and I'm willing to gamble in order to improve that position.

I just think we need to re-calibrate how we view the position for as long as Spags is here.

That's a complementary position group in his defense. He builds around his DL and his secondary; the LBs are there to be piecemealed and matched up as needed.

I think this team will be scrimping/scraping at LB for as long as Spags (or his progeny) are running the show. It's gonna be an offense first team anyway so that's where the most cap space will go, then you'll see the DL, then the secondary, then finally they'll put together a LB corps with what they have left and they'll figure out a way to make it work.

When you embrace the fact that a position group somewhere is gonna suffer to keep us under the cap, I think you realize that situational deployment of cheaper players w/ particular skill-sets is the way to go. And to me, Foster has a largely redundant skill-set with Ragland and even Niemann on board.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I got Reuben Foster confused with Mason Foster.

Don't the Redskins also have Reuben Foster? Pretty sure they do. Weird, but no weirder than the Chiefs having every single RB on their team named Williams, I suppose

I think he's out altogether. I think he shredded a knee or beat up some chick or something.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's a different argument.

But if we torch $2.5 million in cap space on Foster and he's a 10% improvement on Ragland for the 15 snaps/gm that Ragland's likely to play, that's NOT a good use of that cap space, not when it could be rolled into cap credits for next year instead.

This is a fine argument to have in favor of bringing in Lee - there could be a real upgrade there if O'Daniel can't be trusted in space. But Foster and Ragland would both play a nominal role in this defense as neither can be trusted in coverage and Ragland's fine when he's coming downhill.

At best I'd give him the CJ Spiller treatment. I'd have him in camp, cut him prior to week 1 and then re-sign him after week 1 when NFL veterans salaries are no longer guaranteed. Then if he continues to show better than Ragland in limited use, I'd keep him and cut Ragland. But I'd be extremely reluctant to guarantee money to a marginal 'thumper' linebacker who's role here will be fairly small and who's on the wrong side of 30.

Ragland’s making $1.25M this year.

Assuming you can get Foster for, say, an extra $1M in cap space, that’s an acceptable tradeoff

https://deadspin.com/skins-wait-until-right-before-training-camp-starts-to-c-1836640301

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by O.city

Was suspended 2 game checks but the girl was crazy and lied about it

Then shredded his knee

LOL. I was close.