**** you, Dee Ford

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

But according to your rhetoric, 32 NFL teams didn't think he was.

They clearly didn’t think he was. That doesn’t mean he 100% wasn’t. I’m not talking in absolutes here buddy. I’m not saying that Murphy or Ya-Sin can’t be. I’m saying it’s unlikely.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

They clearly didn’t think he was. That doesn’t mean he 100% wasn’t. I’m not talking in absolutes here buddy. I’m not saying that Murphy or Ya-Sin can’t be. I’m saying it’s unlikely.

Eh, if guys are going picks 33 and 34, i'd say teams had them pretty much as first rounders. It's a semantical argument anyway so it's W/E.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, if guys are going picks 33 and 34, i'd say teams had them pretty much as first rounders. It's a semantical argument anyway so it's W/E.

Apparently you missed my point about this being a particularly weak draft when there are almost never 32 first round talents in any draft according to the pros. This draft ****ing sucked at the top and it was well known, are you forgetting that now?

It’s pretty obvious that at the very least the majority of the league did not see those guys as 1st round talents. You can argue with me all you want, but you’re wrong per usual.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Apparently you missed my point about this being a particularly weak draft when there’s never 32 first round talents in any draft according to the pros. This draft ****ing sucked at the top and it was well known, are you forgetting that now?

It’s pretty obvious that at the very least the majority of the league did not see those guys as 1st round talents. You can argue with me all you want, but you’re wrong per usual.

Sure, weak draft and all.

All teams talked about was how you could get starters thru the what, 3rd round?

But those guys won't be immediate contributors because they were taken with picks 33 and 34 yet i'm guessing you're gonna say a guy like Thornhill will be because?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sure, weak draft and all.

All teams talked about was how you could get starters thru the what, 3rd round?

But those guys won't be immediate contributors because they were taken with picks 33 and 34 yet i'm guessing you're gonna say a guy like Thornhill will be because?

Dude, I didn’t say they won’t. I’ve said multiple times that it’s unlikely. Do you ****ing read? And let’s not pretend that there’s not a huge difference in corners and safeties. We’re talking about arguably the most difficult position to transition to in the NFL outside of QB.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Dude, I didn’t say they won’t. I’ve said multiple times that it’s unlikely. Do you ****ing read? And let’s not pretend that there’s not a huge difference in corners and safeties. We’re talking about arguably the most difficult position to transition to in the NFL outside of QB.

I asked you why you don't think those guys will contribute early? Wasn't making a statement

Why is corner the most difficult outside of QB? I'd say DL would be above that and maybe WR, but more so because they come in so raw these days.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I asked you why you don't think those guys will contribute early? Wasn't making a statement

Why is corner the most difficult outside of QB? I'd say DL would be above that and maybe WR, but more so because they come in so raw these days.

How often are there good rookie corners? Jessie Bates and Justin Reid both had good rookie years. How many good rookie corners were there taken outside of the 1st?

And I said arguably. Reading comprehension issues? It’s either corner or DL. Meanwhile, safety is probably one of the easier ones.