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Old 07-23-2019, 02:58 PM  
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***OFFICIAL 2019 Chiefs Training Camp Thread***



In the meantime, this gem from Andy Reid's press conference today:


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Old 08-12-2019, 08:49 AM   #3091
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Oh no, that is not true. Gruden is entering his 6th year, he has 1 playoff appearance in his second year.

That is the hotseat.
Normally yes but Smith was not his fault. So now his time table may have reset some.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:49 AM   #3092
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I wonder who is at the other corner spot on the 1's this morning along with Breeland? Ward is not practicing. Anyone know why? Is it Fuller or Miller? It about has to be one of those two.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:50 AM   #3093
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I wonder who is at the other corner spot on the 1's this morning along with Breeland? Ward is not practicing. Anyone know why? Is it Fuller or Miller? It about has to be one of those two.
All I know is Fields is with the second team
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The only upside of that is if you trade basically nothing for him then you can cut him after the year. Using him as a rental isn't the worst idea.
But the $11 million in base salary for '19 is already spent at that point and is rollover wasted. I don't think people are giving adequate consideration to the fact that we're going to need to add something like $65-70 million to this cap structure in the next 2 seasons. We'll need every thin red dime of rollover we can get for that and torching 15% of what it would take on a mediocre zone corner is a bad idea regardless of long-term liabilities.

Using him as a rental remains a pretty awful idea.
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Honestly, I wish folks here would just ignore them. They aren’t credible, they are intellectually lazy and they are more interested in page clicks than the truth. Let’s quit giving them more play than they deserve.
I mostly do. But a few people I follow will re-tweet them on occasion. Lord I hope it's done ironically....
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Personnally, as much as I would love that Veach trades for a decent CB, I don't want no part of Josh Norman.
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But the $11 million in base salary for '19 is already spent at that point and is rollover wasted. I don't think people are giving adequate consideration to the fact that we're going to need to add something like $65-70 million to this cap structure in the next 2 seasons. We'll need every thin red dime of rollover we can get for that and torching 15% of what it would take on a mediocre zone corner is a bad idea regardless of long-term liabilities.

Using him as a rental remains a pretty awful idea.
I understand that, although I do wonder if the Chiefs are planning for there to be a pretty large cap increase after a new CBA is done.
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Norman is also a bit of a basket case. No thanks.
Here's the strangest thing about Norman - there is so much hype about this dude and he was good for one year.

In 2015 he was excellent. He hasn't been a truly good player any other season of his career. And he was 25 as a rookie so he's coming into his age 32 season.

The dirty little secret about Norman is that his 'bad season' last year wasn't all that much worse than any other year of his career apart from that one outlier season in 2015. He was almost exactly the same player in '18 that he was in '14, '16 and '17. He was so bad in '12 and '13 he barely even played.

And he'll be a virtually identical player this year. The player you get next season won't be any better than Claiborne, IMO.

He just isn't a very good football player. He's a very average football player who had a career year at the right time, got himself paid and then went back to being an extremely average football player.

The Josh Norman fascination is bizarre and I'm betting that he ends up getting cut and signing for a fraction of what people are saying the Chiefs should take on. I was thinking around $5 million but man, I don't think he's any better than Breeland and isn't Breeland's max around $3 million if all incentives are reached? That's Claiborne's max as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut and ends up taking a $3 million deal or so.

Dude's old and he was never great to begin with. That is a flash over substance move and there's no reason to make it at all. Norman may not make this team better at all.
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Miller with Claiborne on the second team in 7-on-7 drill.

Is Fuller now on the outside with the 1's?
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Here's something that is good to see...




Guessing no one noticed that Ragland actually showed the athletic ability to run with a WR.
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Guessing no one noticed that Ragland actually showed the athletic ability to run with a WR.
I’m not a Ragland fan by any stretch but pointing out a good play of his is the opposite of the Chiefsplanet narrative when it comes to him.
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