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08-15-2019, 10:38 PM | #3241 | |
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I don’t think so. His stuff isn’t loud enough. Extremely effective guys without premium fastball velo are going to slot 75-150. Stillvery exciting results. The k rate especially.
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08-15-2019, 10:48 PM | #3242 |
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Bubic feels like a sure thing. The most sure thing to be a useful starter at the MLB level. Maybe not the top shelf potential that some of the other guys have, though.
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08-16-2019, 12:28 AM | #3243 |
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Duffy and Perez should have been traded now you got 2 broke dicks wasting roster spots with large contracts. Of course they needed to keep Salvy so they could maintain being 28th in attendance but but attendance is low because it's a school night, weather, etc.
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08-16-2019, 06:47 AM | #3244 | |
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I simply have him pegged as a decent major league player, yet he is treated (and paid) as if he is a Hall of Famer. I don't get it. Oh well, as Duncan suggests, let's move on to more important matters....... |
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08-16-2019, 07:22 AM | #3245 | |
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08-16-2019, 07:34 AM | #3246 |
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08-16-2019, 07:52 AM | #3247 | |
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*** Official 2019 Kansas City Royals Repository ***
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Position players who were more valuable than Alex Gordon, 2011-15: Mike Trout Andrew McCutchen Buster Posey Miggy Lucroy (bullshit framing metrics) Adrian Beltre Robby Cano Bautista Yadier Molina (bullshit framing metrics) Votto :fin: Stop valuing batting average above all else. It’s an antiquated way of looking at quality of contribution and also inaccurate. Gordon was not a superstar offensive performer outside of 2011 and 2012, but he was a superstar all-around player. He’s not an MLB hall of famer (he would have 10 years of the quality of 2011-15, not 5), but he’s a Royals hall of famer, easily.
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08-16-2019, 08:03 AM | #3248 | |
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Keep beating that drum. They listened on Duffy after 2017 and didn’t get anything reasonable offered. It’s easy to say “trade a guy for prospects!” If you take the time to look at trades that offseason, there are not really any comparable. Gerrit Cole got shipped to the Astros for an uninspiring package headlined by Colin Moran and Joe Musgrove. And it’s a stretch to suggest Duffy’s value was the same as Cole’s. It was not.
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08-16-2019, 08:24 AM | #3249 |
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08-16-2019, 08:46 AM | #3250 | |
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There is literally zero value to having Duffy on this team. |
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08-16-2019, 09:28 AM | #3251 | |
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They didn’t commit to a full tank job. I won’t argue with you on that. Weird that in 2019, there are Royals fans UPSET KC did not commit to a full tank. Amazing what a good 5-year run will do to change hearts and minds.
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08-16-2019, 09:42 AM | #3252 | |
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Your frequent analysis in this thread would make so much more sense. |
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08-16-2019, 09:43 AM | #3253 | |
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Sure, there are a ton of other metrics, like his defense to help make up for it, but hes just an average hitter over his entire career.
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08-16-2019, 09:54 AM | #3255 |
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