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Old 08-26-2019, 09:38 AM  
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:00 AM   #31
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Serious question - how does this impact our playcalling?

I think we try even harder to avoid injury for Pat, moreso than before.

More runs? More 6-OL sets where one is a "TE"?
No. You don’t get scared with Pat. It’s business as usual.

Doesn’t matter if it’s Henne, Shurmur or Litton. If Pat is hurt, season over
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:01 AM   #32
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Yeah, i'd look around at trading for a vet backup. Shouldn't take much, but you'd rather have someone in here that can be decent.
For the love of god, why? We have guys that know the offense better than any we could bring in AND they don’t cost a pick.
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:03 AM   #34
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I was about 270-280 at the time. I didn’t do rehab, he may be forced to do so.

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Old 08-26-2019, 10:04 AM   #35
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For the love of god, why? We have guys that know the offense better than any we could bring in AND they don’t cost a pick.
If Pat misses the 2nd half of a game against the Steelers or the Pats, you think either of those 2 are gonna come in and be able to keep things going the right way?
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:06 AM   #37
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Daniel was my first choice. I don't like paying that, but it is what it is. They can't go into the year with Litton or Shurmur as the backup.

If Mahomes goes down for something long term, fine, throw one of them out there. It wouldn't matter.

But if it's a game or a half, they need someone respectable.
Yeah, they really can.

I mean, not Shurmer - he sucks.

But Litton can sling it. Yeah, you'll see more turnovers than you'd like but if you give him a little time and the same weapons Pat works with and he can give you 17-21 PPG; some rando 'veteran' isn't likely to give you any more than that.

Litton's a genuine NFL caliber thrower - he just needs to work on the 'passer' part of it. Andy can work with that.
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If Pat misses the 2nd half of a game against the Steelers or the Pats, you think either of those 2 are gonna come in and be able to keep things going the right way?
Who are you trading for that will be better?

I’d absolutely roll with Litton for a half. Given our weapons, if he plays competently at all, you may be able to Patriot him to another team down the road.
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Yeah, they really can.

I mean, not Shurmer - he sucks.

But Litton can sling it. Yeah, you'll see more turnovers than you'd like but if you give him a little time and the same weapons Pat works with and he can give you 17-21 PPG; some rando 'veteran' isn't likely to give you any more than that.

Litton's a genuine NFL caliber thrower - he just needs to work on the 'passer' part of it. Andy can work with that.
Maybe.

Seeing as they seem to have Shurmer in front of him though, I dunno that Litton would be the guy they keep.
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No. You don’t get scared with Pat. It’s business as usual.

Doesn’t matter if it’s Henne, Shurmur or Litton. If Pat is hurt, season over
I'm thinking if it's a few games that Pat would be out and not the whole season, we would just need to weather the storm and get to the playoffs.

Neither of the other two guys would be able to get us through a few games. Henne might.
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Lol let’s get mad at Speaks for getting hurt
I'm less mad and more ambivalent.

I'm not sure that's any less of an indictment of Speaks.

The guy's irrelevant. Okay - he's hurt. Whatever. IR him and keep Ivy. It's no loss - dude sucks.
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We'll see what they think of Speaks, if he goes to IR then yea.
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