Chiefs Frank Clark ****ing sucks - Page 122

**RealSNR** · 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM

Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.

Willie Lanier · 11-03-2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Dude, why do you act like Frank Clark is so good against the run? It's the entire reason he was snubbed for the Pro-Bowl last year. Seattle's run defense wasn't all that good either and gave up 4.9 per carry (tied for 27th in the NFL with only the Chiefs and Rams being worse). You act as though he's on the level of guys like Jordan and Hunter and so forth. He's not even close. He's okay and I have no real issues with his run defense, but he's not some world-beater like you envision him. You can run at Frank Clark and the league has so far. I sure hope he turns it around and plays at least back to the level he was at in Seattle where he's not a liability against the run and he's a guy you can have comfort in saying should be in the top 15-20 pass rushers in the league which is where he left off.

Why do you hate Frank Clark so much?

Why are you nostalgically praising Dee Ford?

Why is this becoming a dick measuring contest when all we need is a healthy Patrick?

Inquiring minds want to know...

**BossChief** · 11-03-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

The Seahawks couldn’t afford him you stupid ****. The Raiders did the same thing with Mack and they had way more money. Does that mean the Raiders didn’t think he was really good?

And yet they traded for Clowney to play his position at far more $ in 2019...

kccrow · 11-03-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier

Why do you hate Frank Clark so much?

Why are you nostalgically praising Dee Ford?

Why is this becoming a dick measuring contest when all we need is a healthy Patrick?

Inquiring minds want to know...

I don't hate Clark. I hate that he's playing like ass on a large contract.

I thought the decision was bad one when it all went down. It's not about praising Dee Ford, it's about stating that Clark wasn't worth it at the time because he wasn't that type of massive improvement you'd expect for such compensation. There wasn't enough of a difference, in my opinion, nor statistically, to warrant Veach making that decision.

I don't care about dick size, the woman I **** is happier than hell with mine. It is about looking at things rationally and I don't think many are with regards to the entire thought process that went into this entire debacle. Apparently others think Clark was light years better than I ever saw him against the run. I never agreed with Veach's decision and it's looking more and more like I never will. I'm really starting to dislike Veach as a whole. You look at Hitchens and Clark and have to wonder. You look at his drafts so far and they are a bit of a head-scratcher, but the 2019 draft does have more promise than the 2018 one. Luckily he stumbled into Thornhill, the guy had no business being there that late.

At least Ogbah is playing well for his money.

-King- · 11-03-2019, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

TRUTH! That's why he had to go regardless of any other reason. KC NEVER would have gotten the Justin Houston who is playing for the Colts this season.

The Houston who played for the chiefs last season was better than the Clark playing for the chiefs this season..

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2019, 11:14 AM

The Seahawks run defense was 27th in the league. Who’s fault was that? Frank Clark’s of course. It was all his fault. 10 other guys were shutting down the run but not Frank Clark. He’d run away from the RB every time that they ran the ball at him.

-King- · 11-03-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier

Why do you hate Frank Clark so much?

Why are you nostalgically praising Dee Ford?

Why is this becoming a dick measuring contest when all we need is a healthy Patrick?

Inquiring minds want to know...

You think it's worth 100+ million and a 1st and 2nd round pick for a DE that's on pace for less than six sacks?

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2019, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

The Houston who played for the chiefs last season was better than the Clark playing for the chiefs this season..

And if Houston was playing like Clark is now....people would be screaming for Veach to be fired because Houston was making $20 million this season and not doing dick. We’d just have an extra CB in here now that we wouldn’t be bitching about.

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You think it's worth 100+ million and a 1st and 2nd round pick for a DE that's on pace for less than six sacks?

And what were you saying after Houston got his new contract and then proceeded to play 16 games in 2 years and get 11.5 sacks?

staylor26 · 11-03-2019, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

The Seahawks run defense was 27th in the league. Who’s fault was that? Frank Clark’s of course. It was all his fault. 10 other guys were shutting down the run but not Frank Clark. He’d run away from the RB every time that they ran the ball at him.

That’s why I’m choosing to ignore his rebuttal. What a ****ing joke of an argument. He tried to use tackle stats to show that a Ford and Clark are pretty much the same against the run too. What a ****ing moron.

staylor26 · 11-03-2019, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

And yet they traded for Clowney to play his position at far more $ in 2019...

Because they got him for a ****ing 3rd round pick because the Texans went full reerun with no GM

Are you suggesting they had the foresight to know this would happen? They would’ve gladly let Clark play on the tag just like Clowney is. This is a terrible rebuttal.

**The Franchise** · 11-03-2019, 11:27 AM

What it comes down to is this.

Was it worth what we gave up? No. I wasn’t a fan of what we gave up at the time and I probably never be.

Does that mean that Frank Clark is a garbage player because he got hurt his first year? **** no.

The two can be separated and judged on their own. FFS.

-King- · 11-03-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

And if Houston was playing like Clark is now....people would be screaming for Veach to be fired because Houston was making $20 million this season and not doing dick. We’d just have an extra CB in here now that we wouldn’t be bitching about.

Sure. But at least we wouldn't be out a first and second round pick.

-King- · 11-03-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

What it comes down to is this.

Was it worth what we gave up? No. I wasn’t a fan of what we gave up at the time and I probably never be.

Does that mean that Frank Clark is a garbage player because he got hurt his first year? **** no.

The two can be separated and judged on their own. FFS.

He had 3 sacks in 6 games before his injury. 1 sack in the first 5 games. That's horrible. Unless you're talking about his elbows. But then that would raise the question of why we traded so much and gave so much to a player with ****ed up elbows.

kccrow · 11-03-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

That’s why I’m choosing to ignore his rebuttal. What a ****ing joke of an argument. He tried to use tackle stats to show that a Ford and Clark are pretty much the same against the run too. What a ****ing moron.

No, reerun, my eyeballs showed me that the 2018 version of Dee Ford was not that much worse against the run than Frank Clark. The stats just reinforce it.

When Frank Clark gets washed out by the tackle so they run at his area over and over again, you go ahead and count. The Colts had several big gains because he got washed out or didn't maintain his assignment on a cutback, as an example.

If you want to be blinded, ****ing go for it.

staylor26 · 11-03-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

No, reerun, my eyeballs showed me that the 2018 version of Dee Ford was not that much worse against the run than Frank Clark. The stats just reinforce it.

When Frank Clark gets washed out by the tackle so they run at his area over and over again, you go ahead and count. The Colts had several big gains because he got washed out or didn't maintain his assignment on a cutback, as an example.

If you want to be blinded, ****ing go for it.

If you’re making your argument about the eye test than you are even dumber than I thought. How anybody can say they’ve watched these two and it’s a marginal difference is beyond me.

Again, Ford is so ****ing bad that the 49ers have put him in a situational pass rusher role despite paying him big money and trading away a 2nd. What the **** do you not get about this?

09-15-2019, 02:33 PM
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11-03-2019, 11:14 AM	#1820
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	The Seahawks run defense was 27th in the league. Who’s fault was that? Frank Clark’s of course. It was all his fault. 10 other guys were shutting down the run but not Frank Clark. He’d run away from the RB every time that they ran the ball at him.
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11-03-2019, 11:27 AM	#1826
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	What it comes down to is this. Was it worth what we gave up? No. I wasn’t a fan of what we gave up at the time and I probably never be. Does that mean that Frank Clark is a garbage player because he got hurt his first year? **** no. The two can be separated and judged on their own. FFS.
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