NFL discusses QB salary cap

[Mecca]

Subplot to keep in mind w/ Mahomes contract and others: NFL, NFLPA have discussed concept of QB salary cap as separate entity in new CBA -- as way to handle ballooning QB market while prioritizing paying other positions (think $170M and $40 M, for example) https://t.co/Mkqqtue7IX

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) January 17, 2020

If they were to do this it would benefit us greatly....however from what I've seen most fans are completely opposed to this for the same reason "Ah great so this means teams like the Chiefs will just be better than everyone else for 15 years" then it turned into an NBA max argument and how that sucks..

[duncan_idaho]

I could see doing something where a player's salary can't exceed a certain percentage of the salary cap, but breaking it out into a separate cap seems like it just gives too much advantage to the teams with elite QBs.

Like, say, a player's salary can never exceed 20 percent of the salary cap. For the truly elite guys like Mahomes you could negotiate that they have a base salary and a rolling bonus that brings them to that 20 percent mark each year the cap increases.

But I mean, I wouldn't cry if it got broken out altogether. Would tilt things in KC's favor, for sure.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There are a ton of examples of average QB's who make a ton of money, Garappollo got a huge deal when he'd started like 5 games.

Some idiot team probably Tennessee will pay Tannehill some ludicrous rate like 15 mill a year.

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[RealSNR]

The issue has never been about players like Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers or (at the time he signed his extension) Andrew Luck getting record-setting deals.

The problem is all Jay Cutlers, Andy Daltons, Derek Carrs, Kirk Cousins, and soon-to-be Dak Prescotts getting top 5 QB money when they sign their deals, and in one or two cases, those shitty guys are the ones who re-set the top of the QB market.

I remember a few years ago when Tyrod Taylor was a first year starter for Buffalo and did decently well after being a backup for so long. He put up 14 starts, 3035 yards, 20 TDs, 6 INTs. Game managery, yes, but effective enough if you were the 2016 Buffalo Bills and lacked playmakers at any and all positions. Well, he got an extension. 6 years and $92 million. For game manager production. Yeah, blah blah incentive-laden blah blah not guaranteed after so many years blah blah... whatever. That is outrageous.

Janeane Garofalo signing that ****ing stupid extension with San Fran when he played like 5 ****ing games for them. Holy shit. You're paying that for 5 games, huh?

If Dak gets above $35 (which would put him around Russell Wilson) people would absolutely say this needs to be put into place.

And I'm all for it. Because Mahomes.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

but breaking it out into a separate cap seems like it just gives too much advantage to the teams with elite QBs.

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Yeah i think im ok with this.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There are a ton of examples of average QB's who make a ton of money, Garappollo got a huge deal when he'd started like 5 games.

Some idiot team probably Tennessee will pay Tannehill some ludicrous rate like 15 mill a year.

Jimmy Grapes was the highest salary in the league after 5 starts. That was an absurd situation. But it’s working out for Niners. $27.5M salary is chump change. Cowboys/Texans might end up paying north of $40M per year for QBs very similar to Jimmy.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There are a ton of examples of average QB's who make a ton of money, Garappollo got a huge deal when he'd started like 5 games.

Some idiot team probably Tennessee will pay Tannehill some ludicrous rate like 15 mill a year.

Tannehill will get more than $15m per year

[Hoover]

If there is a QB cap then an agent is just going to want a huge % of it for his client if he's the starter. doesn't change anything. And if its 40M then we can't pay Pat all of it, it actually hurts him.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Tannehill will get more than $15m per year

Probably, I didn't even think about when I typed in what a stupid QB deal is...it's more like 25.

Just watch in a month the Titans will pay some insane number like like 26 mill per year.....on something like 5 years 110 mill with 38 mill guaranteed to Tannehill.

And in the same breath they'll end up giving Henry the biggest RB contract in the league...good luck winning that way.

[TambaBerry]

it doesnt though it rewards teams who went and identified talented guys and went and got them or got lucky and got them either way. There have been a lot of busts at the top of the draft think trubisky and mayfield.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Probably, I didn't even think about when I typed in what a stupid QB deal is...it's more like 25.



Just watch in a month the Titans will pay some insane number like like 26 mill per year.....on something like 5 years 110 mill with 38 mill guaranteed to Tannehill.



And in the same breath they'll end up giving Henry the biggest RB contract in the league...good luck winning that way.

They way they’ve built their team and this late surge by Tannehill almost forces them to sign both guys long-term.

They’d better win the Super Bowl this year or they’re pretty much ****ed.

.. unless this version of Tannehill is legitimate, of course. If he is then he’d be worth the contract they’ll give him.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah i think im ok with this.

Meh. I like parity in the league. I appreciate the fact that it's hard to win in the NFL and because of that Aaron Rodgers has only won 1 Superbowl. The balancing act of acquiring talent while trying to stay within the salary cap really shows how skillful some GMs are how some aren't. Take that away and it cheapens the league IMO.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Probably, I didn't even think about when I typed in what a stupid QB deal is...it's more like 25.

Just watch in a month the Titans will pay some insane number like like 26 mill per year.....on something like 5 years 110 mill with 38 mill guaranteed to Tannehill.

And in the same breath they'll end up giving Henry the biggest RB contract in the league...good luck winning that way.

Tannehill has played better this year than Jimmy Grapes did in his 5 starts that led to the highest salary in the league. Jimmy and the Niners have set a precedent. Tannehill will get $28-30M, perhaps more.

[Mecca]

Of course Reddit immediately turned it into "I can't wait for teams to try to classify guys like Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald as QB's by trying to develop some trick package."

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Tannehill has played better this year than Jimmy Grapes did in his 5 starts that led to the highest salary in the league. Jimmy and the Niners have set a precedent. Tannehill will get $28-30M, perhaps more.

The difference is, Tannehill has played a ton, you should basically know what he is.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Probably, I didn't even think about when I typed in what a stupid QB deal is...it's more like 25.

Just watch in a month the Titans will pay some insane number like like 26 mill per year.....on something like 5 years 110 mill with 38 mill guaranteed to Tannehill.

And in the same breath they'll end up giving Henry the biggest RB contract in the league...good luck winning that way.

If there's a QB only cap, that same team would probably have to pay him the full amount of the cap. It's literally just like the max contracts in the NBA and how Kris Middleton makes basically the same amount as LeBron. It's dumb.