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Old 02-06-2020, 09:45 PM  
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How to play this off-season with free agency?

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:10 PM   #16
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The longer Mahomes waits to sign a deal the more leverage he has.
Not necessarily. He could have a serious injury. Would think his agent wants to get the big money sooner rather than later.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:15 PM   #17
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Is there a way we can cut Hitchens and Fisher and save $$? If so, i’d start there.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:17 PM   #18
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I’d keep him over Jones. Jones is a one trick pony and his replacement (Pennel) is better and cheaper. Tag and trade
To be fair, he is really good at that one trick. He changes the face of a game.

But I agree that we may need to trade him if it means getting some picks while also retaining the money to keep our depth. Overall, depth seems more important to the benefit our defense.

We also need to see what our players are asking for first. Because one way or another, I don't think we can afford more overpays. It has to be fair value at the least.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:19 PM   #19
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When you have a franchise QB. Players will want to come to KC. Not like years past where game managers killed everyone’s hope.
This is what I'm hoping for. I hope there are some good vets willing to come here on a discount.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:23 PM   #20
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Jones ain’t coming back. Trade him and take picks with immediate value.
This. He could get tagged and maybe he goes along with it but a long term deal with his value will be nearly impossible.

Even if we get him at a major discount, back-loaded contract with less up front, etc. don't see how we sign him and Pat in the next 2 years with what Pat will get (and deserves).

My guess is we trade Jones before the draft and get some value for him and free up cap space.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:28 PM   #21
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Is there a way we can cut Hitchens and Fisher and save $$? If so, i’d start there.
Who are you putting in Fisher's spot? All of their losses this season happened with him on the sideline with injury. Undefeated with him in the lineup.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:30 PM   #22
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Not necessarily. He could have a serious injury. Would think his agent wants to get the big money sooner rather than later.
According to Whitlock and Wiley they said that a former GM told them that Mahomes agent will not allow Mahomes to play next year unless a new deal is signed
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Is there a way we can cut Hitchens and Fisher and save $$? If so, i’d start there.
Nope. Veach restructured both of their contracts
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:36 PM   #24
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Is there a way we can cut Hitchens and Fisher and save $$? If so, i’d start there.
Yeah lets leave the blind side open to career injury to our 50 million a year QB. After all elite LT's grow on trees. Fish is getting older sure but he isn't out to pasture yet. Who do we have to replace on our roster?
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:39 PM   #25
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:41 PM   #26
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Yeah lets leave the blind side open to career injury to our 50 million a year QB. After all elite LT's grow on trees. Fish is getting older sure but he isn't out to pasture yet. Who do we have to replace on our roster?
Watkins is the worst we can cut and save the most at 14 mil

LDT we would save about 5 mil

Kelce we can save 10 mil.

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Old 02-06-2020, 11:41 PM   #27
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Jones is most definitely coming back on a fat backloaded deal with signifcicant performance escalators and a decent bonus the first couple of years, If they do mahomes early - jones gets the tag. My prediction, we sign Jones to a five year deal worth 70 mil guaranteed, if he makes it to year five and collects all the bonuses its worth close to $130,000,000. We get to the next cba and sign Mahomes for an 7 year 40+ mil a year contract worth over 300 million dollars with incentives - more than half of which is guaranteed. It's too much money for a goddamned superbowl championship. We pay these guys too much money to play a stupid game, all that money could be going to cure cancer, fix the environment, feed people who don't have enough to eat, help those with mental illness, explore space, fix the roads, the schools or grow food. When it comes to this football shit, we are being pretty ****ing stupid. Maybe now that we won one we as chief consumers should demand lower prices for our fandom and the nfl investing in the health safety and future of the country instead of the pockets of guys who can play football good for a few years. I love the sport, I love our team, but I love America and all of her people more. These contracts, the idiotic speeches, all this other bullshit can go **** itself.
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According to Whitlock and Wiley they said that a former GM told them that Mahomes agent will not allow Mahomes to play next year unless a new deal is signed
It's a smart approach, especially since he already had a scary injury this season. Goff/Wentz have set a standard that the QB has to be paid after year 3.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:46 PM   #29
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It's a mother****ing game, but life isn't. Too much money and hype for something that ain't that important.
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It's a mother****ing game, but life isn't. Too much money and hype for something that ain't that important.
If you hate it so much, why are you here posting about it? Quit wasting your time with something that doesn't matter.
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