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Old 02-06-2020, 09:45 PM  
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How to play this off-season with free agency?

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:02 PM   #151
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I would really try to keep as much of the d together so we can start out a little faster next year
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:02 PM   #152
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Maybe because Chris Jones is 5 times the player that Dee Ford is?
Who the **** is Dee Ford?
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:03 PM   #153
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What?

You sound like a communist here. What is the proper amount of wealth they they have the "right to" in your opinion?

You do realize the following don't you?:

1- You (and I and other fans) pay their salaries via ticket sales, TV viewership, gear, etc

2- Their bodies and brains take a beating that cuts their life and quality of life shorter than most careers.
So you honestly believe that these people are paid what they "deserve?"

And yeah....ticket/merchandise prices are ridiculous. You're proving my point.

It's too bad that no one cared about the beating that Lenny Dawson and company took in their day. Poor guy had to go to a second job after practice. I don't think he was bitching and crying about it though.

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Old 02-07-2020, 01:03 PM   #154
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I would really try to keep as much of the d together so we can start out a little faster next year
You know who is coming back for sure next season!!!

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Old 02-07-2020, 01:04 PM   #155
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I know things don’t work this way, but doesn’t Pat stand to make a lot more money by winning than he can make in salary from the Chiefs?

If he keeps winning Super Bowls, he’ll continue to be the face of the league for the foreseeable future. He will get whatever endorsement deal he wants. He’ll continue to make more and more off the field than he ever could on the field.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:06 PM   #156
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We have some play money for the next few years even with the mahomes contract. We have a super bowl team now. Keep that going for a few years even if it leads to an eventual painful rebuild. Where mahomes needs to differ from guys like Rodgers is recognizing the need to adapt his contract mid contract. A few years in, mahomes will have to start making choices about whether to make more money, or save his team. The difference is by then he will already be filthy rich.

I really believe pat is cut from a different cloth and would be open to doing it this way. He wants to be known as a great and will take a few cuts here and there to cement that legacy
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:07 PM   #157
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If we are trading Chris Jones, I am pressing for a 1st and 3rd. No matter what we get back, I’d like to trade down with one of those first rd picks to get a 3rd.

If we can get 5 top 100 picks, that would be ideal.
We gave up a late first round pick and a FUTURE late 2nd round pick for Clark. I don't see a team matching that offer for Jones, because DEs are valued more than DTs, and Jones has shown some weakness in parts of his game.

I think best case for Jones is we get Seattle's 2020 first round pick, and their 2021 third round pick.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:09 PM   #158
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I’ve been trying to think of defensive players in recent history who played up to their big contract after getting paid.

Frank Clark this season, yes

But Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack, and Demarcus Lawerence all had declines in their individual production a year after getting paid and all three of their respective teams missed the playoffs.

And of course there are the recent examples of Justin Houston and Eric Berry in KC.
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Frank Clark is making the rounds on ESPN and every single show they have mentioned he’s under the weather. Nah my dude is just hungover
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Keep as many as the guys upfront on the DL as possible. The secondary is replacable. Except for Sorensen of course!

Bye bye Sammy. Hello Mecole.
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GOOD POINT! I mean what’s the guy even done to deserve a huge contract?

Besides winning MVP, getting us to consecutive AFCCG, winning the Super Bowl, winning Super Bowl MVP, being the best player in the league at the most important position, and only being 24.

Besides those things, HE HASNT DONE SHIT!
No matter how good he is, you still gotta have a strong roster in general. He had a losing record in college because the team around him was garbage. I think his only path to a dynasty is to give discounts to KC front office. But his agent would not be wrong in pointing out that even with Mahomes on a dirt cheap rookie deal, the KC front office gave him one of the worst defenses in NFL history during the 2018 season.
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We gave up a late first round pick and a FUTURE late 2nd round pick for Clark. I don't see a team matching that offer for Jones, because DEs are valued more than DTs, and Jones has shown some weakness in parts of his game.

I think best case for Jones is we get Seattle's 2020 first round pick, and their 2021 third round pick.
Where is all this Jones to the Seahags talk coming from?

They still have to figure out something on Clowney.
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Where is all this Jones to the Seahags talk coming from?

They still have to figure out something on Clowney.
It's as good of a guess as any at this point. Welcome to the off season.

They're in the NFC, they're a contender, they need pass-rush help, they have cap space, they have draft capital, and they have an existing tag/trade relationship with the Chiefs organization.
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:06 PM   #165
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Where is all this Jones to the Seahags talk coming from?

They still have to figure out something on Clowney.
Same place the pat will get a contract based on a percentage of the cap stuff comes from, nowhere. That never happened and probably wont happen. It started as a cp mention and has now taken a life of its own.
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