How to play this off-season with free agency?

[Walt White]

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.

[Kidd Lex]

1st Conley & Wilson, next Robinson & Watkins are all likely to get big deals somewhere else. I say let them. Bring us guys on the cheap, let someone else pay for past production.

[Walt White]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Imagine having to think about losing Watkins, Jones, Okafor, Fuller, Breeland, and others if we had lost.... ������

Chiefs are in better shape financially than many think for next season. I’d like Veach to stay savvy and not overpay, while piling up draft capital, & nabbing veterans on discounts with something to prove... that’s how you build a sustainable dynasty even with a huge QB contract.

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Veteran on a prove it deal and a 3rd or 4th round draft choice

Edit: if you’re a veteran who’s trying to get a multi-year deal done but need a one year prove it deal, what team is better to sign with than then the Chiefs? I really think WR is the least of our worries. Agents will be calling Veach to throw their clients at us - I believe that. I wouldn’t even spend draft capital on the position

I can agree with that. But I'm okay with taking a WR or RB with one of our first two picks if we really love a guy and feel he could be the next young star.

There is a lot of tough decisions to make. I know we will have to lose some players. But my thinking is a little bit different. I do want to upgrade the defense, but I truly want to try to make one of the best offenses ever.

I know there may be more pressing needs elsewhere, but I'd rather to try to fill them with a stop gap for cheap and continue to invest into making our strengths even greater with Pat on the team. And Pat is going to make us a great offense regardless, so I see the logic of investing more in defense. There is a balance. But I don't see anyone stopping us if we make our offense even better.

Let's say we beef up the O Line by signing a couple vets and drafting a couple. Then find the vet WR who will take a discount and draft a couple WR's. Draft an RB and sign one to give us a good rotation and depth. And try to add another TE on the cheap that can make plays could be the icing on the cake. Nobody is going to stop that offense. We might average 40 points a game. And I think it is attainable.

[bsp4444]

What, if any, compensatory picks would we be entitled to, based on who of these players we lose?

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by 493rd

Watkins was our best WR throughout the playoffs. I’d like to see him back if he’s willing to restructure. Next, tag Jones and try to create some wiggle room for Breeland and Fuller. Veach will have to make some tough decisions, but I have faith in whatever he thinks is best.

Hardman is the new Watkins. And he won't disappear for most of the year.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by 493rd

Watkins was our best WR throughout the playoffs. I’d like to see him back if he’s willing to restructure. Next, tag Jones and try to create some wiggle room for Breeland and Fuller. Veach will have to make some tough decisions, but I have faith in whatever he thinks is best.

I don't think there is a restructure for Watkins. It would have to be a tear up the old and sign a new contract. One of the best ways to find wiggle room is to sign Jones long term not the tag.
Fuller made a play or 2 but he has not been as good as expected since we got him in the trade. His INT in the SB was probably the best play he has made in the last 2 years.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Sorry but that’s not happening. He wants 7-10 mil per year

I think he is worth it.

[YontsRBake]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Who are you putting in Fisher's spot? All of their losses this season happened with him on the sideline with injury. Undefeated with him in the lineup.

That has more to do with Cameron Erving being a terrible player than Fisher being a good one. I don't think replacing his very average production for far cheaper is as difficult as perceived in this thread, I think Ervings play this year has just traumatized our fanbase into thinking Fisher is the only way.

but if there aren't net saving with the dead money then it's not a realistic scenario.

[YontsRBake]

Is Corey Littleton out of our price range? He'd be a great fit in this scheme imo.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

Is Corey Littleton out of our price range? He'd be a great fit in this scheme imo.

Almost certainly yes, he's going to get $13-15m per average

[YontsRBake]

Originally Posted by Chargem

Almost certainly yes, he's going to get $13-15m per average

Damn didn't realize he was valued that high.

Nick Kwiatkowski is the other available ILB I think is a good scheme fit, id imagine he'd be far cheaper.

[dlphg9]

This thread is full of Ruhtard.

Pennel is better than Jones?
Players should take discounts because they're already making too much money?
Jones doesn't deserve to get paid because he didn't have any sacks?
Release Eric Fisher?
Trade Chris Jones?

That's all in the first few pages. I couldnt bring myself to read the rest of the reeruned shit some of you say, because I'm not risking the brain cells I have left.

Shout out to Penbrook for acting like an expert in all things Chiefs and answering everyone's questions, because you read something on Twitter.

[xztop123]

keep jones and pennell

figure out a way to get all new linebackers except maybe keep hitch.

get rid of both defensive ends we signed last year (that were hurt during sb run)

o-line tweaks

i don’t mind keeping our current secondary intact (as long as the guy with torn acl recovers)

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Hardman is the new Watkins. And he won't disappear for most of the year.

we have seen very little evidence of that, frankly.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This thread is full of Ruhtard.

Pennel is better than Jones?
Players should take discounts because they're already making too much money?
Jones doesn't deserve to get paid because he didn't have any sacks?
Release Eric Fisher?
Trade Chris Jones?

That's all in the first few pages. I couldnt bring myself to read the rest of the reeruned shit some of you say, because I'm not risking the brain cells I have left.

Shout out to Penbrook for acting like an expert in all things Chiefs and answering everyone's questions, because you read something on Twitter.

Only one I agree with in your list is trading CJ. Take a good look at our cap situation. Resigning him isn’t going to be easy, and when Mahomes becomes the highest paid QB remember this little tidbit - the teams with the highest paid QB have missed the playoffs 8 of the last 10 seasons. Hard decisions will have to be made to keep the team competitive. Job #1 should be protecting your $40 million dollar man.

Btw takes like this are weak. Call out damn near everyone in the thread, but dont have an original opinion of your own. Go on record, and tell us how you’d make it all work.

[wachashi]

If you believe the rumor that Chris Jones will be shopped via a tag/trade deal to NFC contenders then I see a few teams that could make sense. It's the off season and it's fun to speculate, so that's what I'm doing.

For reference, the Chiefs gave up about 240 points of draft capital for Frank Clark. Since Jones plays DT, I doubt there's a team out there willing to give up that much for him.

1. SEATTLE
- $50 million in cap space
- Top 2/3 team in the NFC
- Ranked 30th in sacks in 2019
- Tag/trade relationship between the organizations is already established
- Could trade their 2020 first round pick (27) at a valuation of 216 points. Could possibly get another future pick from them in this trade

2. DETROIT
- $45 million in cap space
- Tough year last year, but they have a QB and some offensive pieces
- Ranked 31st in sacks in 2019
- Matt Patricia is a defensive coach - he's going to look to upgrade that unit big time
- Could trade their 2020 second round pick (35) at a valuation of 170 points, then swap third rounders with KC and maybe get a future pick from them

3. PHILADELPHIA
- $40 million in cap space
- Contending playoff team
- Ranked 16th in sacks in 2019
- Fletcher Cox + Chris Jones would be a nightmare for QBs
- Organization staff very familiar with one another
- Could swap their first round pick (21) with KC's first rounder, give up their second (53) and a future pick

4. DALLAS
- $76 million in cap space
- Contending team with new staff
- Ranked 19th in sacks in 2019
- Might not have the cap flexibility their current space reflects though
- Could swap their first round pick (17) with KC's first rounder, give up their third (82) and a future pick

DRAFTEK TRADE VALUE CHART