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Old 02-27-2020, 03:29 PM   #1
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I feel the exact same way, but in the other direction. If you wanna tag and re-sign Jones, fine. I get it, I wouldn't necessarily do it but they have more info on it than we do.

But let's not white wash away how restricting that will be toward having a complete team.
If the goal is having a complete team, you probably shouldn't sign Mahomes to a monster deal either.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:57 PM   #2
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If the goal is having a complete team, you probably shouldn't sign Mahomes to a monster deal either.
Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:05 PM   #3
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Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
But look at the Seahawks!!!
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:51 PM   #4
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Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
I'm not knocking Veach at all, but you padded that list with some Meh like Ragland and Erving. And Rankin is mostly an unknown at this point.

But I still think Veach has done a good job, just sayin'
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Old 02-28-2020, 01:22 PM   #5
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Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
It's not that he can't. There were resources used to obtain that talent.

Charvarius Ward - cost = traded Parker Ehinger = 4th round pick
Reggie Ragland - cost = traded 4th Round pick
Emmanuel Ogbah - cost = traded Eric Murray = 4th round pick
Cameron Erving - cost = traded 5th round pick
Martinas Rankin - cost = Carlos Hyde (FA)
Derrick Nnadi - cost = 3rd round pick
Mecole Hardman - cost = 2nd round pick
Juan Thornhill - cost = 2nd round pick
Khalen Saunders - cost = 3rd round pick

And then you look at that, and what you said and you think what could Veach do with a 1st and 3rd and free cap space instead of Jones?
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:01 PM   #6
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It's not that he can't. There were resources used to obtain that talent.

Charvarius Ward - cost = traded Parker Ehinger = 4th round pick
Reggie Ragland - cost = traded 4th Round pick
Emmanuel Ogbah - cost = traded Eric Murray = 4th round pick
Cameron Erving - cost = traded 5th round pick
Martinas Rankin - cost = Carlos Hyde (FA)
Derrick Nnadi - cost = 3rd round pick
Mecole Hardman - cost = 2nd round pick
Juan Thornhill - cost = 2nd round pick
Khalen Saunders - cost = 3rd round pick

And then you look at that, and what you said and you think what could Veach do with a 1st and 3rd and free cap space instead of Jones?
While good, none of those players are close to the talent and value as Chris Jones. It’s hard to find DL as athletic and big as him that performs the way he does. Those guys don’t come around often and when they do, they are top 15 picks.

Salary is going up big time after the new CBA. We can keep him. Let’s do it
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:23 PM   #7
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While good, none of those players are close to the talent and value as Chris Jones. It’s hard to find DL as athletic and big as him that performs the way he does. Those guys don’t come around often and when they do, they are top 15 picks.

Salary is going up big time after the new CBA. We can keep him. Let’s do it
No problem with keeping him. Who you cutting or not re-signing or both?
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No problem with keeping him. Who you cutting or not re-signing or both?
LDT
Sorenson
Reiter
Erving

I’d also put 2 more years on Kelce’s contract and push that scam down the road.
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The chiefs did the right thing with tagging Jones. While it is very unpopular with players and the guy has earned the right to a multi year deal, dude needs to understand that its the best player on the planet being taken care of before him.

Its not a slight, by any means, but in his Cowherd interview he acts like its this mixed emotions thing, talking about do i need 30 sacks and shit.

Sorry dude, you give any team the choice to lock down either PMII or Chris Jones, Jones eats the tag 100% in every fathomable scenario.

Take your 15-16 mil this year, it still good money, get your back to back championships, and when the space is there, the Chiefs can extend properly.
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While good, none of those players are close to the talent and value as Chris Jones. It’s hard to find DL as athletic and big as him that performs the way he does. Those guys don’t come around often and when they do, they are top 15 picks.

Salary is going up big time after the new CBA. We can keep him. Let’s do it
Except Jones was a second round pick so your entire point is wrong
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
Watch Mahomes **** up the whole QB market 😂. All the other QBs are gonna hate him
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Watch Mahomes **** up the whole QB market 😂. All the other QBs are gonna hate him
It's not ****ing up the market if he get $250m Guaranteed.
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
Dak should have taken $13M.
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