***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Good news. So tomorrow when I head over to Costco and Sam's and buy all of their Tang and Cup o' Ramen, I'll have the store to myself.

It's at the point in LA that I can order nearly anything for virtually the same price as Costco and have it delivered for free in less than 24 hours.

That is, until all the delivery drivers all die of COVID 19.

[eDave]

They still sell Tang?! Hot Tang always cured me of the flu in KC.

I think we've just discovered the cure. Pay me.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

In all honesty, this doesn't look any different than any given weekend at Costco Burbank.

I do my best to avoid going on the weekends but when I do, there is at least a 20 minute wait for gasoline, the checkout lines are 12-15 people deep on average and it can take up to 30 minutes to find a parking spot.

I went to the Leawood Costco twice over the Christmas break, including Christmas Eve, and it *seemed* completely empty to me.

Yeah I get it, Saturdays are crazy and the local Costco as well. I avoid that day at all costs. Those were just people reporting places that were a lot busier in their area than normal from a different web site. Some people are going nuts. The impending Corona Virus zombie apocalypse mentality.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by eDave

They still sell Tang?! Hot Tang always cured me of the flu in KC.

I think we've just discovered the cure. Pay me.

Hahaha, honestly I have no idea. Haven't bought Tang in maybe 30 years?

Holy shit, just searched it on Amazon, and they have TANG!

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hahaha, honestly I have no idea. Haven't bought Tang in maybe 30 years?

Holy shit, just searched it on Amazon, and they have TANG!

Yes they do and numerous offerings at that.

[Mennonite]

The last time I tried to buy some it turned out to be a cop.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

The last time I tried to buy some it turned out to be a cop.

Awww, no happy ending for you!

[KsBubba]

I am thinking the total corona deaths will be offset x2 by less flu deaths because of precautions.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

How's the supply of Brita's?

What's the source water going to be?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Oh for god's sake. If the virus really has been in the U.S. for a couple months now then it's in the water already. We wouldn't have 73 cases we'd have 73,000. If you're really that scared of your tap water, boil it first.

Unless the virus can be transmitted through your electric stove? OMG, what about the gas lines?

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!

I'm not saying that COVID-19 can be transmitted via water supplied by public utilities. You've completely missed the point I was making.

[LiveSteam]

After spending all day in this thread.
Im convinced Im the only one that will survive this..

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by eDave

They still sell Tang?! Hot Tang always cured me of the flu in KC.

I think we've just discovered the cure. Pay me.

Dave always looking for tang

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

After spending all day in this thread.
Im convinced Im the only one that will survive this..

Oh no, I'm in.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Oh no, I'm in.

You live in bear and BigFoot country.
Of course you're gonna survive.
Us city slickers. Not many are gonna make it.

[007]

We are all safe here in Kansas. Nobody comes to Kansas.