***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Just spoke with ER doc who say he's seeing cases he's 99% sure are #coronavirus. Negative for flu, recent travel, work in airports. Not allowed to test. Patients return to work because they can't take time off w/out a firm diagnosis. Other ER docs seeing the same thing.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 4, 2020

From the replies seems like this is going on in a lot of places. This one is in New Hampshire.

From what I've read anybody can be tested now. I'm not sure what the hold up is

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

From what I've read anybody can be tested now. I'm not sure what the hold up is

However I will say that I know the guidelines were much stricter only a few days ago

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Just spoke with ER doc who say he's seeing cases he's 99% sure are #coronavirus. Negative for flu, recent travel, work in airports. Not allowed to test. Patients return to work because they can't take time off w/out a firm diagnosis. Other ER docs seeing the same thing.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 4, 2020

From the replies seems like this is going on in a lot of places. This one is in New Hampshire.

WELP THEY'RE ALL AS GOOD AS DEAD NOW

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Just spoke with ER doc who say he's seeing cases he's 99% sure are #coronavirus. Negative for flu, recent travel, work in airports. Not allowed to test. Patients return to work because they can't take time off w/out a firm diagnosis. Other ER docs seeing the same thing.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 4, 2020

From the replies seems like this is going on in a lot of places. This one is in New Hampshire.

More than anything, why are people going to the doctor for basic cold/flu symptoms?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

More than anything, why are people going to the doctor for basic cold/flu symptoms?

Fear

[loochy]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

More than anything, why are people going to the doctor for basic cold/flu symptoms?

Yeah, that always frustrates me too.

It's so they can get out more and spread it to everyone

or so they can request antibiotics

[TLO]

Originally Posted by loochy

Yeah, that always frustrates me too.

It's so they can get out more and spread it to everyone

or so they can request antibiotics

GIVE ME MUH ANTIBIOTIC FOR THIS VIRAL INFECTION!!D!!

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by loochy

Yeah, that always frustrates me too.



It's so they can get out more and spread it to everyone



or so they can request antibiotics

Ah, that’s the worst. I actually had an argument with Easy about that a while back. He’s just like “well my doc prescribes them and it makes me feel better so whatever”.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fear

Fear and wanting to avoid inconvenience, I’d guess. A newly pregnant chick on my Facebook posted asking other moms how they deal with colds while preg. Basically her doc told her there wasn’t much he could do for her lol

I could not ****ing imagine going to the damn doctor for a cold. Good Lord.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by loochy

Yeah, that always frustrates me too.

It's so they can get out more and spread it to everyone

or so they can request antibiotics

NONE OF THE ABOVE. They go because they have to get a note from a doctor to return to work usually due to one's excessive absenteeism work history.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

(CNN)A former cruise ship passenger has died from coronavirus almost two weeks after he returned home, marking California's first death from the illness and the 11th death across the US.

Now the same ship is headed back to California from a different voyage with 2,500 passengers on board -- including dozens who went on the same trip as the California man who died.

At least 11 passengers and 10 crew members currently on board Princess Cruises' Grand Princess ship have developed symptoms, California Gov. Gavin Newsom said.

Most of the passengers got off after the Mexico portion of the cruise and have been living in CA completely unaware for 2 weeks. The people who are still on board either stayed on the boat or got on to go to Hawaii.

[Mecca]

I have a cold, when I sneeze or cough I don't have to stand in line so it's pretty sweet.

[eDave]

The WHO sent 25 international experts to China and here are their main findings after 9 days:

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/c...erts_to_china/

[Rasputin]

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I have a cold, when I sneeze or cough I don't have to stand in line so it's pretty sweet.

If I have to cough or sneeze I try to hold it until I can stand right next to one of those people wearing a mask and then I really let it fly.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

If I have to cough of sneeze I try to hold it until I can stand right next to one of those people wearing a mask and then I really let it fly.

Lol I’ve noticed most people who are wearing masks are Asian