***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Do you think anybody would buy that crazy shit? If so we are in big trouble !

Taco John, for one. He's probably the author.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Do you think anybody would buy that crazy shit? If so we are in big trouble !

There's a dozen of them in the DC forum alone.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by SupDock

There is no data to suggest colloidal silver works, so I would never advocate that it does. 1. The issue is that you make cloaked statements about things like Vitamin C working, and then you get called on it and back track.
You said that you heard Vitamin C is one of the most effective treatments in China, but can't even say where you heard it, and now are saying you have no idea if it works.
2.What makes your physician a "high end physician?" Why do their recommendations differ from the medical consensus? Why is it a good think that they recommend things that are different than what evidence based medicine suggests?

3. I'm glad that you hardly get sick, but that anecdotal report means nothing to prove or disprove the medical advice you receive. There are plenty of people without "high end physicians" that hardly ever get sick either.

You guys are unbelievable.

1. This was my first post.

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

There is a lot of information out there that states that in China the best results for treatment have come from high dose vitamin C drips. If I felt like I was getting something I think I would get one immediately along with a hyperbaric IV ozone therapy 10 pass. Don't expect to hear about any of this from our trusted friends at the CDC, FDA or WHO.

1. I was reading off my phone during Judo for my son this weekend and read a couple articles on it. I don't save them as I had no idea I would be crucified for posting there was information out there claiming that and there is. I never claimed personally that I knew it was working. WTF is wrong with you guys?
2. What makes a high end physician is one that only takes cash and rarely takes on new clients because the demand for them is so high. What's different is they are not owned by the industry and following protocol. They are doctors actually being doctors.
3. Once again I never said it was proof for the reason my family rarely get sick. What I did say is I would go with it over what some self-proclaimed scientist on a football BB was cutting and pasting.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Get ready for a lot more of this kind of thing on social media.

The only cure for the virus is to wear a tin foil hat to block the 5G waves. I knew it would eventually come to this.

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Interesting

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51805727

[TLO]

Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51805727

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The health ministry says the average age of deaths from the coronavirus is 81.4 years.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You guys are unbelievable.

1. This was my first post.

There is a lot of information out there that states that in China the best results for treatment have come from high dose vitamin C drips. If I felt like I was getting something I think I would get one immediately along with a hyperbaric IV ozone therapy 10 pass. Don't expect to hear about any of this from our trusted friends at the CDC, FDA or WHO.

I was reading off my phone during Judo for my son this weekend and read a couple articles on it. I don't save them as I had no idea I would be crucified for posting there was information out there claiming that and there is. I never claimed personally that I knew it was working. WTF is wrong with you guys?
2. What makes a high end physician is one that only takes cash and rarely takes on new clients because the demand for them is so high. What's different is they are not owned by the industry and following protocol. They are doctors actually being doctors.
3. Once again I never said it was proof for the reason my family rarely get sick. What I did say is I would go with it over what some self-proclaimed scientist on a football BB was cutting and pasting.

So a physician that takes cash and rarely takes new clients is a high end physician? Interesting metric.
I don't even know what it means to be "owned by the industry", but I would certainly rather see a physician that follows protocol than one that doesn't. Not following protocol is "doctors being doctors"?

You seem to be such a skeptic, but then read something about vitamin C and Covid-19 and have no issue saying " There is a lot of information out there that states that in China the best results for treatment have come from high dose vitamin C drips"

In my opinion, you are spreading misinformation.

[Donger]

Confirmation bias.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51805727

Some people just never learn.

The trouble began in the northern city of Modena after inmates at the Sant'Anna prison were told that all visits had been suspended.

Three people were reported to have died at the prison, while a further three died after being transferred from there.

It is thought that at least two of the dead lost their lives to drug overdoses after they raided a prison hospital for the heroin substitute methadone.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

The only cure for the virus is to wear a tin foil hat to block the 5G waves. I knew it would eventually come to this.

What about aluminum foil? You think it would work too?



Hmmm.....BRB.




(Headed to Walmart before they're sold out of foil)

[Pablo]

Just ate a 5 lb. bag of oranges(peels on) and swallowed like 7 of my wife's earrings. Should be good to go now, thanks BD!!

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You guys are unbelievable.

1. This was my first post.

1. I was reading off my phone during Judo for my son this weekend and read a couple articles on it. I don't save them as I had no idea I would be crucified for posting there was information out there claiming that and there is. I never claimed personally that I knew it was working. WTF is wrong with you guys?

Stop spreading bullshit claims that you can't back up. And don't whine when someone asks you for a source.

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Some people just never learn.

It is thought that at least two of the dead lost their lives to drug overdoses after they raided a prison hospital for the heroin substitute methadone.[/COLOR]

Yeah. Survival of the fittest LOL.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by SupDock

So a physician that takes cash and rarely takes new clients is a high end physician? Interesting metric.
I don't even know what it means to be "owned by the industry", but I would certainly rather see a physician that follows protocol than one that doesn't. Not following protocol is "doctors being doctors"?

You seem to be such a skeptic, but then read something about vitamin C and Covid-19 and have no issue saying " There is a lot of information out there that states that in China the best results for treatment have come from high dose vitamin C drips"

In my opinion, you are spreading misinformation.

Whatever. It always kills me that people who run in the circles I do who prescribe to a lot of what many of you consider misinformation are so much healthier than the general population. (Much Healthier)One of them treats a bunch of the 49ers, I wonder why and how they ended up there. It's kind of a who's who of the silicon valley with executives. If you think you are getting better advice at Kaiser from a doctor following AMA protocol knock yourself out. IMO, diet matters. Supplements matter. Exercise matters. Treatments matter. It's so weird that this is the only place I go where people think it doesn't. IMO diet is king. To each their own though.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Just ate a 5 lb. bag of oranges(peels on) and swallowed like 7 of my wife's earrings. Should be good to go now, thanks BD!!

Way too much sugar IMO. This place is so weird.