***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

If this is CV, March Madness is cancelled tomorrow. Wow.

It’s gonna be cancelled anyway.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Nebraska men’s basketball team is not leaving Bankers Life Arena. They were brought their food outside the locker room. They are not letting people back to the area now. I just walked back to the area here and they told me no one from Nebraska will be made available.

— Andy Katz (@TheAndyKatz) March 12, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The hoax shit is overblown and completely misreported. No one and I mean no one ever said the virus was a hoax. That's not what was said.

FTR, There is video, tweets etc of them calling it a hoax. We are in the lounge and the truth is easily googled and found.

[tyecopeland]

I'm really tired of the media coverage and resulting over blown reactions to this. Yes it's dangerous and contagious. Yes theres not a vaccine or treatment right now. But, most of the people who contract it show no or very little symptoms and aren't being reported in the statistics "proving" how deadly this is. Many of the people suffering the worst from this are people with risk factors or other problems who would also be more susceptible to a bad case of the flu but are able to get a flu shot to prevent that.

My town canceled stuff as soon as 1 person was tested 'presumably positive' for it. It just seems utterly ridiculous even in a town as international as this one.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Nebraska men’s basketball team is not leaving Bankers Life Arena. They were brought their food outside the locker room. They are not letting people back to the area now. I just walked back to the area here and they told me no one from Nebraska will be made available.

— Andy Katz (@TheAndyKatz) March 12, 2020

Always knew nebraska had aids

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I find this to be far more helpful than the stuff suzzer was posting earlier.

The blue line is the stuff I've been posting - how it's going to progress w/o taking steps to limit contact.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

I'm really tired of the media coverage and resulting over blown reactions to this. Yes it's dangerous and contagious. Yes theres not a vaccine or treatment right now. But, most of the people who contract it show no or very little symptoms and aren't being reported in the statistics "proving" how deadly this is. Many of the people suffering the worst from this are people with risk factors or other problems who would also be more susceptible to a bad case of the flu but are able to get a flu shot to prevent that.

My town canceled stuff as soon as 1 person was tested 'presumably positive' for it. It just seems utterly ridiculous even in a town as international as this one.

The response is not overblown. Canceling stuff is to prevent the disease from spreading too fast and overwhelming our heath care system. Survival rates for the vulnerable populations you mention will greatly increase if they have access to health care. Very reasonable response.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, I heard him and his sky is falling diatribe. I've also heard medical professionals who don't necessarily agree with him.

So the infectious disease epidemiologist was.....just fear mongering?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

FTR, There is video, tweets etc of them calling it a hoax. We are in the lounge and the truth is easily googled and found.

'THEM CALLING IT'

- the proganda power of generic pronouns.

Sure glad we're keeping political bullshit out of our sacred spaces

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

I'm really tired of the media coverage and resulting over blown reactions to this. Yes it's dangerous and contagious. Yes theres not a vaccine or treatment right now. But, most of the people who contract it show no or very little symptoms and aren't being reported in the statistics "proving" how deadly this is. Many of the people suffering the worst from this are people with risk factors or other problems who would also be more susceptible to a bad case of the flu but are able to get a flu shot to prevent that.

My town canceled stuff as soon as 1 person was tested 'presumably positive' for it. It just seems utterly ridiculous even in a town as international as this one.

You use your mouth purtier than a $20 whore.

Can you use your tie to tie me up, ty?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

I'm really tired of the media coverage and resulting over blown reactions to this. Yes it's dangerous and contagious. Yes theres not a vaccine or treatment right now. But, most of the people who contract it show no or very little symptoms and aren't being reported in the statistics "proving" how deadly this is. Many of the people suffering the worst from this are people with risk factors or other problems who would also be more susceptible to a bad case of the flu but are able to get a flu shot to prevent that.

My town canceled stuff as soon as 1 person was tested 'presumably positive' for it. It just seems utterly ridiculous even in a town as international as this one.

If one person tested positive, that likely means a dozen are currently infectious.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I find this to be far more helpful than the stuff suzzer was posting earlier.

I"ve found some really good follows on twitter about this stuff. No bluster or stuff just straight forward. Can recommend if interested.

Trevor Bedford, Caitlin Rivers and Scott Gottlieb are really good follows.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If one person tested positive, that likely means a dozen are currently infectious.

It's on the chart I just posted.

At this point, it's all about slowing it down so Hospitals don't get overwhelmed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

'THEM CALLING IT'

- the proganda power of generic pronouns.

Sure glad we're keeping political bullshit out of our sacred spaces

exactly. Not calling out or mentioning names or tribes. Just a generic them. I’m trying to follow the rules in a topic that has obvious political entanglements.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Always knew nebraska had aids

HEY GODDAMNIT