***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Hallelujah I don't have to go to a conference now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Most people are living paycheck to paycheck. They don't have the luxury to work from home or go without a paycheck for a month. America is not going to implement the draconian measures China did to stop the spread. Not going to happen and it shouldn't.

And those exact reasons are why this will be hard to contain here.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I should have said possibly, not probably. My bad.

I'll take issue with possibly, too.

[BigRedChief]

The Indy car race is still going to happen here in my home town. 300K visitors from all over the world. All large crowd events are being canceled but not this one.

[WhawhaWhat]

Jazz star Donovan Mitchell has tested positive for the coronavirus, league sources tell ESPN. Jazz players privately say that Rudy Gobert had been careless in the locker room touching other players and their belongings. Now a Jazz teammate has tested positive.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 12, 2020

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Hallelujah I don't have to go to a conference now.

ditto

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Jazz star Donovan Mitchell has tested positive for the coronavirus, league sources tell ESPN. Jazz players privately say that Rudy Gobert had been careless in the locker room touching other players and their belongings. Now a Jazz teammate has tested positive.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 12, 2020

Gobert needs to be kicked off the team. Hopefully the NBA suspends his dumb ass as well

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We haven't even started testing beyond the handful of people tested. 330 million people and how many have been tested? 10-20 thousand? We should have already had millions tested. How can we know how far and wide its spread without testing?

Explain how millions should have been tested. Have there been that many that wanted or needed to be tested but no testing was available?

[WhawhaWhat]

There is a social pandemic going on, too. The Corona Tough Guy.

Have you met him? Ignore him. Do what makes you feel safe. pic.twitter.com/YOxJlf9pJv

— Kyle Brandt (@KyleBrandt) March 12, 2020

[dirk digler]

Raptors are quarantining their players for the next 2 weeks because of Gobert.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Explain how millions should have been tested. Have there been that many that wanted or needed to be tested but no testing was available?

Same way South Korea tested people. Use the drive by swab issued by the WHO. Use their test kit instead of wasting 3 weeks developing and botching our own test. The WHO test works, No need to re-invent the wheel.


People voluntarily register, They get cheek swabbed. Testing is done. Positive tests are followed up on for tracking. Could be done at every school, post office, high school gym etc. No need to have a medical professional do every test. Just have a nurse show them how to properly swab a cheek. Put the data inside a database and use big data and machine learning analytics to map out where the outbreaks are, put more medical resources in that area.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

There is a social pandemic going on, too. The Corona Tough Guy.

Have you met him? Ignore him. Do what makes you feel safe. pic.twitter.com/YOxJlf9pJv

— Kyle Brandt (@KyleBrandt) March 12, 2020

How Big Dummy is opening every door he runs across to prove it's not a big deal:

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Pablo

How Big Dummy is opening every door he runs across to prove it's not a big deal:

That's Pete.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pablo

How Big Dummy is opening every door he runs across to prove it's not a big deal:

Plenty of guys wish their wives had that talent....

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Same way South Korea tested people. Use the drive by swab issued by the WHO. Use their test kit instead of wasting 3 weeks developing and botching our own test. The WHO test works, No need to re-invent the wheel.


People voluntarily register, They get cheek swabbed. Testing is done. Positive tests are followed up on for tracking. Could be done at every school, post office, high school gym etc. No need to have a medical professional do every test. Just have a nurse show them how to properly swab a cheek. Put the data inside a database and use big data and machine learning analytics to map out where the outbreaks are, put more medical resources in that area.

They have tested 200k .4% of their population. They also were hit before us.