Chris Jones - Making Him the Highest Paid Defender in the League

[staylor26]

Funny how everybody talks about Houston and Berry, but what about guys like Clark and Mathieu? Yea they weren’t Chiefs before, but they’re still guys you gave a 2nd contract to. There’s no difference.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Funny how everybody talks about Houston and Berry, but what about guys like Clark and Mathieu? Yea they weren’t Chiefs before, but they’re still guys you gave a 2nd contract to. There’s no difference.

People will say Clark and Mathiue can still get hurt. That douche bag wallcrawler was one of those idiots.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

People will say Clark and Mathiue can still get hurt. That douche bag wallcrawler was one of those idiots.

Lol. Im sorry, I didn't realize making it through one season of a huge contract makes them invulnerable to injury, and a large chunk of our cap is unable to produce from the sideline for the duration of the injury and potentially into years that they are no longer with the team. Berry and Houstons 15 mil dead money this year was so satisfying to pay them. Cant wait to drop another 8 mil on Berry next season!! Best contract evaaaar.

My bad though. All of Clarks injuries are behind him now obviously, so its smooth sailing on that 100 mil boys!! Back up that Brings truck on Jones!

Jones' production in the divisional playoff alone helping us come back from 24-0, shows why we cannot succeed in the post season without him. WE MUST MAKE HIM THE HIGHEST PAID DEFENDER NAOWWWW!!

Idiot.

This argument isnt against any single player, you short sighted dipshit, it is about the risk associated with dropping 3-4 players worth of cash on one player.

Hasn't panned out well in the past.

Christ youre ****ing obtuse.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Lol. Im sorry, I didn't realize making it through one season of a huge contract makes them invulnerable to injury, and a large chunk of our cap is unable to produce from the sideline for the duration of the injury and potentially into years that they are no longer with the team. Berry and Houstons 15 mil dead money this year was so satisfying to pay them. Cant wait to drop another 8 mil on Berry next season!! Best contract evaaaar.

My bad though. All of Clarks injuries are behind him now obviously, so its smooth sailing on that 100 mil boys!! Back up that Brings truck on Jones!

Jones' production in the divisional playoff alone helping us come back from 24-0, shows why we cannot succeed in the post season without him. WE MUST MAKE HIM THE HIGHEST PAID DEFENDER NAOWWWW!!

Idiot.

This argument isnt against any single player, you short sighted dipshit, it is about the risk associated with dropping 3-4 players worth of cash on one player.

Hasn't panned out well in the past.

Christ youre ****ing obtuse.

You're using a hypothetical injury as your main reason that Mathieu and Clarks contract and Jones' potential contract might be bad, but im obtuse? I know it's literally the only possible reason you have to not sign Jones, but it's making you look like you crawled too high up a wall, fell, and the end result was a mild case of mental reerunation.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Lol. Im sorry, I didn't realize making it through one season of a huge contract makes them invulnerable to injury, and a large chunk of our cap is unable to produce from the sideline for the duration of the injury and potentially into years that they are no longer with the team. Berry and Houstons 15 mil dead money this year was so satisfying to pay them. Cant wait to drop another 8 mil on Berry next season!! Best contract evaaaar.

My bad though. All of Clarks injuries are behind him now obviously, so its smooth sailing on that 100 mil boys!! Back up that Brings truck on Jones!

Jones' production in the divisional playoff alone helping us come back from 24-0, shows why we cannot succeed in the post season without him. WE MUST MAKE HIM THE HIGHEST PAID DEFENDER NAOWWWW!!

Idiot.

This argument isnt against any single player, you short sighted dipshit, it is about the risk associated with dropping 3-4 players worth of cash on one player.

Hasn't panned out well in the past.

Christ youre ****ing obtuse.

Look at a list of the best D tackles to ever play. There's something all of those guys have in common and that is they played either there whole careers with the same team or at most 2 teams. Between these guys who are arguably the best 10 DTs of all time only 3 of them played on more than 1 team.

Casey Hampton - 1 team
Buck Buchanan - 1
Warren Sapp - 2 (Played on 2nd team during his decline. Was 32 years old when he went to 2nd team. Worst years of his career)
Randy White - 1
Cortez Kennedy - 1
John Randle - 2 (went to 2nd team when he was 34)
Bob Lily - 1
Merlin Olsen - 1
Mean Joe Greene - 1
Alan Page - 2 (went to 2nd team at 33 years old)

Teams just don't let their stud D tackles go. When are all pro talent d tackles ever available for trade or in FA? Its just a position that is filled with so many busts that when you get one like Chris Jones you don't let him leave before he's even hit his prime, especially if the only reason you can come up with is that he might get hurt.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Look at a list of the best D tackles to ever play. There's something all of those guys have in common and that is they played either there whole careers with the same team or at most 2 teams. Between these guys who are arguably the best 10 DTs of all time only 3 of them played on more than 1 team.

Casey Hampton - 1 team
Buck Buchanan - 1
Warren Sapp - 2 (Played on 2nd team during his decline. Was 32 years old when he went to 2nd team. Worst years of his career)
Randy White - 1
Cortez Kennedy - 1
John Randle - 2 (went to 2nd team when he was 34)
Bob Lily - 1
Merlin Olsen - 1
Mean Joe Greene - 1
Alan Page - 2 (went to 2nd team at 33 years old)

Teams just don't let their stud D tackles go. When are all pro talent d tackles ever available for trade or in FA? Its just a position that is filled with so many busts that when you get one like Chris Jones you don't let him leave before he's even hit his prime, especially if the only reason you can come up with is that he might get hurt.

I want to keep Jones and I think we need to ,also tired of reading wall climbers shit on an on about it lol. But isn’t the list you put up almost entirely of people who played before the cap?

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Look at a list of the best D tackles to ever play. There's something all of those guys have in common and that is they played either there whole careers with the same team or at most 2 teams. Between these guys who are arguably the best 10 DTs of all time only 3 of them played on more than 1 team.

Casey Hampton - 1 team
Buck Buchanan - 1
Warren Sapp - 2 (Played on 2nd team during his decline. Was 32 years old when he went to 2nd team. Worst years of his career)
Randy White - 1
Cortez Kennedy - 1
John Randle - 2 (went to 2nd team when he was 34)
Bob Lily - 1
Merlin Olsen - 1
Mean Joe Greene - 1
Alan Page - 2 (went to 2nd team at 33 years old)

Teams just don't let their stud D tackles go. When are all pro talent d tackles ever available for trade or in FA? Its just a position that is filled with so many busts that when you get one like Chris Jones you don't let him leave before he's even hit his prime, especially if the only reason you can come up with is that he might get hurt.

The level of fail here is ****ing spectacular.

There was no ****ing Salary Cap until 1994.

Are you even ****ing aware of when Free agency where players had any ****ing unrestricted decisionmaking about where they played became an actual thing? When teams no longer had to not only get the team to give up right of refusal, but settle on draft compensation for the right to sign them?

1993.

Pease, tell me the story about how the Chiefs were able to keep Buck Buchanan from going elsewhere, by paying him a huge deal knowing they just couldnt let him entertain offers, while taking care of their "cap space". Lol. Jesus.

Half of these men you listed never even had an option to leave. The only way out was through trade. If the player was good, youd never trade them, and they played for peanuts. If they sucked, nobody was gonna give you shit for them in trade. LMMFAO. They were basicly indentured servants. You want to play, you play here. Or you retire.