***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

So are we now complaining that there is more testing being done?

Jesus. Dial in would you?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

A better conspiracy is that it’s designed to reduce the American entitlements problem. Or maybe a more widespread social safety net problem in the West. Plan A is to make it look like this virus came from a wet market. Plan B is to release it in the city where China’s only top level bio lab is so they can try to pin it on the Chinese if plan A falls through. Meanwhile, an unstoppable plague blows though and cleans out the West’s post-producers (the old and unfit).

thats what you think? This is weaponized bio-terroism?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

So are we now complaining that there is more testing being done?

WTF dude? Really?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

thats what you think? This is weaponized bio-terroism?

As far as conspiracy theories goes it's as good as any.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

thats what you think? This is weaponized bio-terroism?

No. I think this is most likely a natural virus. I’m just looking at what the virus does and who stands to gain by it and building a conspiracy around that.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The problem with testing is it's only good for that particular moment in time. I can test negative and 10 minutes later be exposed to someone who has the virus and there you have it.


We need to test but there is a lot of overrated expectations right now about what pre-emptive testing like what SK did really gets you.

Unless you lock everyone up and release them one by one as they test negative then large scale testing is going to be overrated.

You would have to do something like that if containment and then elimination was the goal.

It is too late for that.

The mode now is to slow the spread to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed.

If you tested tens of thousands a day and let them know the results that would still slow the spread. Even if a few contracted it minutes after testing.

And the test aren't 100% accurate anyway.

Letting service sector workers know whether they have C19 or just the common flu/etc would be a really big deal for keeping the economy going while protecting hospital ICU capacity.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That’s what I’m saying.

Don’t wait for it to get worse.

Isolate this thing and suffocate it.

I couldn't agree with you more.

Thats exactly what we have to do is act proactively and in anticipation in order to mitigate risk and proliferation of the virus.

We can't just sit here and wait for cases to rise and then do something about it. Before we know it, it may be too late. This virus is acting very fast and subtly that self-isolation may be the best solution we have right now in order to counter it. I mean its not like we are going to get a vaccine in time anyway?

*Its going to take a collaborative effort to do this though. Im not sure if everyone will self-isolate. Im cautiously optimistic and hopeful.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No. I think this is most likely a natural virus. I’m just looking at what the virus does and who stands to gain by it and building a conspiracy around that.

why try to build a conspiracy? Just for fun?

[jjjayb]

Someone who's had the coronavirus sharing their symptoms:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/12/woman-...arly-symptoms/

I'm sure there are thousands and thousand more people that have or have had it already that aren't even aware. Most of the cases of it have been mild.

[Demonpenz]

How ironic of a meme when it was a pair pf Jazz Hands that shut down the nba

[BlackOp]

I think it's funny that a lot of people who have it...just think it's the flu.

Gee..old people and those with compromised immune systems are at risk...no shit...just like with influenza.

The media is acting like this is the Bubonic plague...set to wipe out 50% of the population.

Sheeplevirus is a more apropos title...

140,000 people have been killed in car accidents in the past 7 days...worldwide.

I wonder if more people have actually died driving to get hand sanitizer....

[BigRedChief]

Irans vast coronavirus burial pits are visible from space

Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space.

Iranian authorities began digging a pair of trenches for victims just days after the government disclosed the initial outbreak. https://t.co/3S4dgLisbu pic.twitter.com/UJwEWEAdhi

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 12, 2020

[KCUnited]

I had success using target.com this morning for paper goods. They were cleared out yesterday but I was able to add to cart for pick up this morning.

[displacedinMN]

My district closed today because 1 parent thinks they were exposed to 1 of the 9 people confirmed in Minnesota.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

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