***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Did the same thing last night. Could buy all the soap I wanted. But toilet paper? Better know someone at corporate.

I was just going to end up getting a superior product in wet wipes if I couldn't find any TP or simply take a shower after a dump.

They were all stocked up with wet wipes. So I bought a bunch of those too.

Shit like this is why I hate people.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by luv

Presumptive positive in Springfield. The girl (20-something) had returned from Austria. She called ahead to a clinic, was greeted by an empty waiting room, immediately given a mask, tested, and taken home for quarantine. Test was sent off to CDC to confirm.

The hardest part of this whole thing, for me, is worrying about my kiddo. When I dropped him off at daycare this morning, they had implemented hand washing upon arrival. Makes me feel a little better, I guess. And my house is good on toilet paper. Did our usual stocking before all of this hit, so we're good for a bit.

I’m guessing it’s a matter of time before all day cares and schools shut down.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

They were all stocked up with wet wipes. So I bought a bunch of those too.

Shit like this is why I hate people.

I know it. We were fortunate in that our monthly Costco trip happened last week anyway and we happened to be organically low on TP so we bought one of the big cases. We’ve been out of town this week. Our house sitter better not be black market selling that shit out of our garage.

[Bwana]

I had my direct boss call me last night wanting me to put together a sales meeting for mid April and fly in 10 of my guys from around the country. I think this dude lives in a cave. I just told him, we will see what happens with the Virus first.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by wazu

I've been using this: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

But it's been getting hit so hard that it is effectively down during peak hours. And then today it's missing the map data as well as any data for Italy or Iran.

Same here and it is indeed hit and miss.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’m guessing it’s a matter of time before all day cares and schools shut down.

Our schools just shut down this morning until April 1st.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Our schools just shut down this morning until April 1st.

The district next to us shutdown until further notice. I’ll be shocked if we don’t get a similar email today.

[booger]

You can’t call yourself a man until you’ve wiped your ass with Scotts blue shop towels. Just don’t flush the damn things. Throw them in the trash or a bucket then you can either put them out for the trash man or do the world a favor and just burn the poopy blue paper towels. Adapt and overcome you whiney shits!

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Is it overkill at this point if drastic measures were taken to the level of:

Suspend all air travel
All interstate travel is shut down
Require all non essential businesses to suspend business
Encourage everyone to stay at home
Ban all groupings of a certain amount of people

We passed overkill by Wednesday this week, what you are proposing is absurd.

[Loneiguana]

Trick is to get to the store early. Hyvee jeff city was stocked up from a truck over night, but it was going quick.

Talked a bit with one of the workers. Biggest worry is if/when warehouse runs out.

Was able to get some bleach. Didnt need tp.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by booger

You can’t call yourself a man until you’ve wiped your ass with Scotts blue shop towels. Just don’t flush the damn things. Throw them in the trash or a bucket then you can either put them out for the trash man or do the world a favor and just burn the poopy blue paper towels. Adapt and overcome you whiney shits!

At least those are almost soft. You haven’t lived until you have torn pages out of a magazine to use. Those high gloss pages are the best.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Trick is to get to the store early. Hyvee jeff city was stocked up from a truck over night, but it was going quick.

Talked a bit with one of the workers. Biggest worry is if/when warehouse runs out.

Was able to get some bleach. Didnt need tp.

So bleach is the latest thing people are hoarding?

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’m guessing it’s a matter of time before all day cares and schools shut down.

They shut down Disney



Dreams no longer come true

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Bwana

So bleach is the latest thing people are hoarding?

At least with bleach you can purify drinking water if things were to get really bad. But I also doubt those buying it would know how to use it for this properly.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We passed overkill by Wednesday this week, what you are proposing is absurd.

The problem with waiting is by then it’s too late with these things and measures