***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Spott

The French don’t recognize personal space at all, so it’s not surprising that they would spread it quicker. It doesn’t help matters when everyone over there smokes and rarely wash their hands after using the bathroom.

You are wasting your time talking to that idiot.

Its like trying to say China is just like the US, or Japan, or Italy.

Vastly different countries with vastly different population concentrations and all of them have taken different measure at different times.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Because you have no idea where the virus actually is. You're just being hopeful not actually coming up with a solution. Social distancing only slows and flattens the graph.

When people start coming down with this in huge numbers everything is going to change, we're still in the infancy. Italy's numbers are jumping up at a huge rate despite social distancing.

The only countries that are actually achieving anything are ones utilizing widespread testing like China and South Korea.

Do you realize what is involved with testing everyone? Did you hear the presser today where they pointed out what it takes?

You have to get in a protective suit, test one person then go change into a completely new protective suit and test the next person and so on.

You can't just walk up and start swabbing people by the 100's.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TLO

You should stick around and post more. I like your optimism

Eh, that's probably why I won't.

When's optimism ever worked out for anyone?

Bottom line is there's only so much freaking out I can do. Wife and 3 kids at home, leadership role at work. At some point you can sit around and immerse yourself in any gloom and doom scenario you'd like and be !@#$ing miserable (because lets face it - you as an individual aren't going to change it).

Or you can ingest everything you can find and hold onto those positive data points with everything you've got.

Like I said - I'll openly acknowledge that this whole country could be in flames by the end of the week but man, I just can't live in that space right now. It ain't healthy and too many people take their queues from me. So ultimately I think I believe me. I'm pretty sure I think we'll come through this in fine working order. But I'm pretty sure I was only ever about 55% sure the Chiefs would win the Super Bowl (and a lot less than that in the 4th quarter). Some of it was just forcing myself to buy into the remaining 45%...

It just is what it is.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You are wasting your time talking to that idiot.

Its like trying to say China is just like the US, or Japan, or Italy.

Vastly different countries with vastly different population concentrations and all of them have taken different measure at different times.

I hope you get it.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by TLO

Kinda like the flu?

does the flu have a 2%+ death rate ?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Do you realize what is involved with testing everyone? Did you hear the presser today where they pointed out what it takes?

You have to get in a protective suit, test one person then go change into a completely new protective suit and test the next person and so on.

You can't just walk up and start swabbing people by the 100's.

I guess I'll post this again. Consider it the only actual outline I've heard that seems like it is taking everything into consideration.

this guy rules

pic.twitter.com/67pId4kC4i

— rat king (@MikeIsaac) March 13, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I hope you get it.

You're a ****ing douche man. If you disagree with him then act like an adult about it.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

does the flu have a 2%+ death rate ?

Marcellus was telling us a few weeks ago it was just the flu now hes saying not many will die because we are America. You can tell who grew up on the propaganda lol

[BigRedChief]

Airlines want $50 billion in bailout money, to start with. Most airlines in the world are expecting to be bankrupt by May 2020.

How are we suppose to bail out every industry and ourselfs when this is all over?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I hope you get it.

Thanks Billay it means a lot to me.

Being an extremely healthy person under 50, I should be fine if I do.

Me getting the virus wont change the fact you are a ****ing moron though.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You're a ****ing douche man. If you disagree with him then act like an adult about it.

Nah hes a piece of shit

[wazu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Do you realize what is involved with testing everyone? Did you hear the presser today where they pointed out what it takes?

You have to get in a protective suit, test one person then go change into a completely new protective suit and test the next person and so on.

You can't just walk up and start swabbing people by the 100's.

Why can South Korea do it but we can't? https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...-fast-and-free

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Marcellus was telling us a few weeks ago it was just the flu now hes saying not many will die because we are America. You can tell who grew up on the propaganda lol

many people on the right don't want to acknowledge this.


Still a few hold outs on the left as well but calling it a flu is ****ing reeruned at this point.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I guess I'll post this again. Consider it the only actual outline I've heard that seems like it is taking everything into consideration.

this guy rules

pic.twitter.com/67pId4kC4i

— rat king (@MikeIsaac) March 13, 2020

So you want to swab and ct scan everyone?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Nah hes a piece of shit

I'd say you're a bigger one judging by your post.