***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

I wanna know what and how we punish China for this?

Funny how the media has handled this.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Some dudes blog post. All that needs to be said?

Would airlines be in better shape cutting stock buybacks or cutting dividends at this specific difficult time? Do you have trouble with dividends?

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sorry, but I don't agree at all.

Estimations I've heard locally are that of people exhibiting obvious Coronavirus symptoms, only about a third of them can be tested due to the shortage of tests and strict guidelines. Turning people away all day long. We have no idea how many people have this disease, but we are way, WAY under-reported.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by wazu

I have no doubt we've already far surpassed them. I would bet we're closer to China.

We probably have passed them. We have about 290 million more people in our country than they do.

[Monticore]

answer from wife (GP/hospitalist/ER/coroner) regarding things you can take to help, , nothing specifically tested yet but anything with anti viral properties can help most likely, Echinacea, oregano, elderberry extract, vit D and C. I would assume sleep and avoiding stress would help to.

not sure where she got her info but mostly not the internet, she isn't very good at googling.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Monticore

answer from wife (GP/hospitalist/ER/coroner) regarding things you can take to help, , nothing specifically tested yet but anything with anti viral properties can help most likely, Echinacea, oregano, elderberry extract, vit D and C. I would assume sleep and avoiding stress would help to.

not sure where she got her info but mostly not the internet, she isn't very good at googling.

Oh no, none of that around here. This is a big pharma only community. Everyone else will be shot on site or harassed forever.

[oaklandhater]

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/18/boris...pmqs-12417520/

We need something like this.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We probably have passed them. We have about 290 million more people in our country than they do.

Yet we have half the fatalities of France at this point.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Oh no, none of that around here. This is a big pharma only community. Everyone else will be shot on site or harassed forever.

Please...take your butthurt somewhere else...

[Donger]

So, we had our really big new case jump from March 16 to 17. 765.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Please...take your butthurt somewhere else...

I rest my case.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Oh no, none of that around here. This is a big pharma only community. Everyone else will be shot on site or harassed forever.

I heard eating handfuls of dirt can boost your immune system, you could try that. You’re welcome

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So somehow 7000 cases in France is not the same as 7000 cases here?

Bases on what you are saying our number of cases would have to increase almost 6 times to get to the same cases\per million people as France.

They have 7000+ cases
We have 7000+ cases

That has nothing to do with how many more people they tested than us

We know for a fact right now that the 7,708 cases that have tested positive in this country is 23 cases per million people in this country.

How hard is it to understand that the numbers in the US for active infections is not accurate as we are not testing.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by penguinz

How hard is it to understand that the numbers in the US for active infections is not accurate as we are not testing.

Hard

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by wazu

Didn't see this mentioned yesterday, but sounds like "Type A" blood is now being called out as a risk factor: https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/people...s-study-finds/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_...ion_by_country

Which is kinda weird because Japan is up there on the Type A percentages and they're inexplicably doing fine right now.