***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Clay - be terrified of the National Guard! (but ignore that silly little virus - no big deal)

It's like Taco John lite.

The human response to this virus is far more terrifying than the virus itself.

We've had far more terrifying diseases, even in the last 20 years.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think that you're doing what you can to support your local economy. I agree and support your decision. I'm not going to do it b/c I'm high risk, and every time I would eat takeout I'm probably getting exposed to 2-3 other people.

We’re ordering out as long as possible. If we get locked down we will start eating the food in the house. If we run out of toilet paper.... we’ll let’s just say the Guinea Pig is looking concerned.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yes. I've been eating "out" so as to not kill my food stash at home.

Learn to work the value menus.

You can save a lot of $$$ eating fast food if you know how to game it. For exmaple:

A Panda Express 3-Item plate can feed 3 people, even though a lot of people will eat that all by themselves. That's a meal for less than $10. Here's how:

1. A 3-Item plate costs LESS than a Large Entree, and you get a side with it (i.e Chow Mein). So if you plan on using their prepared meat, it's actually better if you purchase the combo. You get the same amount of meat.

2. Just cook your rice at home. For my family of 3, all we need is 1 cup of rice.

Divide up the Chow Mein and the rice into 3rds (if you're 3) and each person also gets a serving of meat.

Your home made rice + Chow Mein + Meat Entree = 1 "Panda Bowl" (or 1-item plate).

The difference in cost however is $24 vs $10.

A lot of these places can be had like that as they often give you TOO much.

Yes, but you only get one fortune cookie.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

We’re ordering out as long as possible. If we get locked down we will start eating the food in the house. If we run out of toilet paper.... we’ll let’s just say the Guinea Pig is looking concerned.

Guinea Pig's are burrowers. Tie a string to it for safety reasons.

Trust me.

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Yes, but you only get one fortune cookie.

Pure gold

[candyman]

Originally Posted by eDave

Guinea Pig's are burrowers. Tie a string to it for safety reasons.

Trust me.

[Nickhead]

i just realized the fact that the chinese were in fact aware of this virus early on. i always thought the chinese wearing masks at the airport and around sydney during the bush fires for the smoke. it wasn't that, it was they knew before christmas what was going on.

[stumppy]

Been ordering out a lot too. Supporting local business and saving food just in case.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by eDave

Guinea Pig's are burrowers. Tie a string to it for safety reasons.

Trust me.

[TLO]

So is ordering out generally considered safe?

[neech]

Originally Posted by TLO

So is ordering out generally considered safe?

You always have the option of going to the grocery store with crowds of people.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

i just realized the fact that the chinese were in fact aware of this virus early on. i always thought the chinese wearing masks at the airport and around sydney during the bush fires for the smoke. it wasn't that, it was they knew before christmas what was going on.

The post Soviet world saw Communist China adopt capitalism in order to survive. Their economic presence in the world has put lipstick on a pig. However, let there be no mistake, Communist China was and still is a pig.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by kgrund

The post Soviet world saw Communist China adopt capitalism in order to survive. Their economic presence in the world has put lipstick on a pig. However, let there be no mistake, Communist China was and still is a pig.

Well that pig is going to run the world for the next hundred years or so.

dong ma?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by TLO

So is ordering out generally considered safe?

It's probably the safest it has ever been.

Go to any restaurant website and they list all of the extra steps they are taking to ensure the cleanliness of their food preparation/food handling with delivery and take out.

Makes you wonder why they can't make these extra steps a part of their normal operating procedure.

[Dayze]

Wife got laid off today after returning from a work trip to Costa Rica yesterday.

Though, they called it a furlough for 60 days....she’s a travel agent. So I told her you might as well treat it as you were laid off....because shit ain’t gonna improve in 60 days from a booking travel perspective.

Yay.