***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Italy has no new deaths or cases. What do you think that means?

The pope finally stepped in.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I get that, but it's not what I was commenting on. Homeboy I originally replied to said young people are dying from it. I was simply pointing out that it doesn't appear to be killing young, otherwise healthy individuals.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I legitimately have not read of a single American death due to COVID of someone under 50 who didn't have some underlying health issue.



I understand that. Even less conspicuous issues could be present, like that article I originally quoted in which the 20 had leukemia and apparently didn't know it.

Has there been a documented case of a young person dying of COVID due to complications caused by hypertension? If that's the case then damn near the entire Western Hemisphere is ****ed.



Has this been confirmed? If so, is the damage irreparable? I think the lungs are one of the few internal organs that can self-repair.

All the conditions listed are suspected causes for why some are falling critically ill, also men seem to be falling critically at a higher rate than women we will know more maybe once it is over, the young healthy people May not die but potentially still will need vents for 10 plus days , plus long term effects still unknown regarding lung function, I think a lot of people who got sars never recovered full function.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Italy has no new deaths or cases. What do you think that means?

I am not talking about Italy. I am talking about this country.

Most of the state's new death column is blank. Does that mean people are dying and they just don't want to update it?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Experiment video showing how far your breath disperses when you cough, whilst using various types of protection. from r/Coronavirus

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by wazu

The pope finally stepped in.

God, darn it, I almost went there.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Italy has no new deaths or cases. What do you think that means?

Whatever dude.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am not talking about Italy. I am talking about this country.

Most of the state's new death column is blank. Does that mean people are dying and they just don't want to update it?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Experiment video showing how far your breath disperses when you cough, whilst using various types of protection. from r/Coronavirus

Interesting....good info

[Fish]

Damn...

New guidelines for visiting the health system
To protect our patients, visitors and staff from infection, we have implemented the following guidelines:

All visitors to health system facilities in the Kansas City area
We have implemented temperature screenings upon entry into our facilities. We have reduced points of entry at some locations to direct all arriving visitors to a screening station where someone will take your temperature. This includes health system employees. Every person arriving at our facilities must receive a temperature screening before entering.
Visiting patients staying at any health system hospital
For most patients, zero visitors are allowed. Exceptions include:

• 1 parent or guardian for patients younger than 18
• 1 support person for labor and delivery patients
• 1 support person for patients with disabilities or impairments needing assistance
• 1 support person or driver for patients undergoing outpatient treatment or procedures
• Support persons for patients nearing end of life
• Any visitor who has a fever or other cold or flu-like symptoms will not be allowed in our facilities.

Outpatient visits at our clinics throughout the health system
For most patients, zero visitors are allowed. Exceptions include:

• 1 parent or guardian for patients younger than 18
• 1 support person for patients with disabilities or impairments
• We encourage family and friends to return home to await news of their loved one. You may wait in your vehicle if you wish.

Any visitor who has a fever or other cold or flu-like symptoms will not be allowed in our facilities.

Unless you have a scheduled pediatrics appointment, visitors under age 14 will not be allowed in the clinic until further notice.

https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/n...mation#visitor

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Interesting....good info

Not a perfect experiment by any means, but it does show the importance of at least coughing into your elbow.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am not talking about Italy. I am talking about this country.

Most of the state's new death column is blank. Does that mean people are dying and they just don't want to update it?

Does that mean people are dying in Italy and they decided to stop reporting it?

It could mean many different things. It could mean no new cases, it could also mean that where they are getting there information has not been updated.

If you look at their new death updates, typically they have a link to a news article.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Not a perfect experiment by any means, but it does show the importance of at least coughing into your elbow.

to me it seemed like elbow and surgical mask were about the only two worth a shit

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Donger

Whatever dude.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Does that mean people are dying in Italy and they decided to stop reporting it?

It could mean many different things. It could mean no new cases, it could also mean that where they are getting there information has not been updated.

If you look at their new death updates, typically they have a link to a news article.

Once again, dude. I am not talking about Italy. If that's your argument then have a nice day.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

coughing into your elbow.

I was thinking about that phrase last night. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "coughing into your elbowpit"? I tried to demo coughing into my elbow, and strained my neck.