***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

not gonna turn this into a D.C thread but look who wrote that POS article.

How bout you make an argument based on the data given in the articke?

[Titty Meat]

So after being told I was off the next 2 weeks my manager called just now saying report Monday. I asked wtf is going on and they had no idea. This is annoying.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Not exactly. They are doing it so everyone doesn't get sick at once and overwhelm healthcare resources

Instead we will wreck people’s lives in other ways and pretend like we are the Soviet ****ing Union telling people where they can and cannot go based on government agencies decisions on what is and is not necessary for our individual lives.

Sounds like a fair trade off.

[crayzkirk]

The last time I went to the store, no eggs, no cheese, no lunch meat. Now with the stay at home order, people are going to be hoarding like never before. How long before stores start limiting items so sane people can actually buy something that they need?

[oaklandhater]

can we talk about how this is the death of the EU or is that too political for this thread ?

Poland and the Czech Republic block masks and respirators from China and intended for Italy. These are the sovereigns, those who for nationalist selfishness violate not only the basic rules of the Single Market but also the human ones@ThierryBreton

— Nicola Danti (@DantiNicola) March 21, 2020

seems like lots of shit meant for italy is going missing all over the EU

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Holy shit....cliff notes?

There is a lot of data that suggests we are overreacting on a massive scale.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thanks I will try that. Just being reading to many horror stories of getting this and going on a vent. I need to step away from all this I think and just go be a hermit. We need more good news..

the good news is happening right now. I’m sure it doesn’t feel that way, but, it is.

The vast majority of Americans are social distancing. They understand this necessity is the best and least painful way out of this mess. We just have to hope it started early enough that our hospitals don’t get swamped too bad.

[2112]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

The last time I went to the store, no eggs, no cheese, no lunch meat. Now with the stay at home order, people are going to be hoarding like never before. How long before stores start limiting items so sane people can actually buy something that they need?

Over here they only let 50 people in at a time. There’s a long ass line outside but there’s plenty in the store now.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

It's not a bad idea.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Instead we will wreck people’s lives in other ways and pretend like we are the Soviet ****ing Union telling people where they can and cannot go based on government agencies decisions on what is and is not necessary for our individual lives.

Sounds like a fair trade off.

what else can we do let it spread and see possible million + deaths ?

Americans are gonna have to learn to cope with this.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Sometimes you have to make the least awful choice in a barrel of awful choices.

If you let this run unchecked it will destroy the healthcare providers of this country. It takes years upon years to train them.

If you let this run unchecked hundreds of thousands of people will die. Some ID experts think it could be a couple million.

If you shutter the business, it will result in economic disaster. Millions will lose their jobs. People will be financially ruined. It's an awful, awful choice... but it's the best one we have.

Your posts are all spot on. I thank you for posting on this.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

can we talk about how this is the death of the EU or is that too political for this thread ?

Poland and the Czech Republic block masks and respirators from China and intended for Italy. These are the sovereigns, those who for nationalist selfishness violate not only the basic rules of the Single Market but also the human ones@ThierryBreton

— Nicola Danti (@DantiNicola) March 21, 2020

seems like lots of shit meant for italy is going missing all over the EU

If that's true it could cause all kinds of bigger problems.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by wazu

There is a lot of data that suggests we are overreacting on a massive scale.

written by some one who has ulterior motives.

The rest of the world is shutting down if anything we are under reacting the numbers from Italy should be a warning to every western country.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So I have real high anxiety right now about getting this virus but also economically. Should I start pulling money out the bank?

No its guaranteed. It is there.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by stumppy

If that's true it could cause all kinds of bigger problems.

Germany did this

https://www.thelocal.ch/20200312/mask-hysteria

and also had masks stolen that were bound for italy.


all kinds of bullshit is going down in the EU