***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by eDave

Thanks for the life sized pic.

I mean you can almost feel its heartbeat in that one

[LiveSteam]

Looks like a Armadilo on steroids

[LiveSteam]

Its late. So some cross threading.
The best Game Warden Big Foot story ever told by a Warden.
Happened because poachers were shooting black bears then selling the bears gallbladder on the Chinese black market.
Warden goes up the mountain after the poacher
Ends up being attacked.

https://youtu.be/A2nF1C__QnA

[eDave]

Urban legend around here is that a guy cut down a saguaro, which is highly illigal, and it fell on him and killed him. Pretty funny.

[Demonpenz]

Three Amigo's when they eat the bat

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm a little disappointed I'm going to have to go to Lawrence, KS or St Joseph to golf.

we are on lockdown as well in st joe

[dlphg9]

I have a feeling this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I've been going to several different Wal-Mart's to just people watch and there are much more people there than usual. The most alarming thing is the number of elderly patients there and the people on the motorized scooters with their oxygen tanks. I listen to conversations and lots of older people talking about how this is just over hyped non sense.

This is just what im noticing here in Missouri.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

It probably had rabies then. Either way I eventually want to hear the facts on what precisely caused this thing. We're gonna need details dammit.

This virus was created in a lab in North carolina in 2015

Two employees of chinese origin left for Wuhang where it mysteriously evolved.

There was a special on OAN last Sunday that laid it all out.

[Perspicacity]

There are 26,892 confirmed cases in the US already, and it is not slowing down at all. I hope it doesn't get any worse than this.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

China lies and cant be trusted.
**** them. They need to pay dearly for this shit. Every 4 years or so. Another killer bat rat virus comes from them commie bat rat eating bastards..

Don't forget most of the chemicals that the drug cartels in Mexico use to create meth and fentanyl come from China and the China state media is using propaganda to blame this outbreak on USA. North Korea's biggest supporter is also China.

These people are not our friends.

Originally Posted by Perspicacity

There are 26,892 confirmed cases in the US already, and it is not slowing down at all. I hope it doesn't get any worse than this.

Unfortunately, everything I have read from reputable health experts points to it getting much worse before it gets better. It is supposed to peak and then hopefully come down. It has not peaked yet. No one knows for sure when it will.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

These people are not our friends.

Nobody is anymore. Some like it that way.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Nobody is anymore. Some like it that way.

Why you say that? I'd like to think most of our allies still are. I wouldn't trust the Chinese though.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Why you say that? I'd like to think most of our allies still are. I wouldn't trust the Chinese though.

I will not comment further.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by eDave

I will not comment further.

Right. My bad to all the mods in here if my previous posts were in anyway political.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

For all those talking about our supplies. How many people CURRENTLY in the US are listed as server or critical with Covid-19?

You are telling me we can't treat them all right now with this treatment?

For those who are wondering what the numbers are it is 6 250mg doses of azithromycin and 18 doses of 200mg hydroxychloroquine per patient. (according to the French study)

I'd wager my local Walmart has enough to treat 50 people right now.

You'd be wrong. Pharmacies can't get it from any supplier right now.