***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TLO

Orally

Try rectal temp.

[eDave]

Pretty rude Monticore.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

What's the variance and mean of the temps amoung the different parts? That should ease your mind.

No I think it'll drive me insane to determine that. I'm giving my thermometer to my girlfriend and having her hide it until someone actually needs to use it.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by eDave

Hey guys who downthumbed this. Did you go to the grocery store over the last week or so? Yes? Then shut the **** up.

You've been reduced to eating guitar strings? Holy ****.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

No I think it'll drive me insane to determine that. I'm giving my thermometer to my girlfriend and having her hide it until someone actually needs to use it.

I'll just go ahead and be the first one to suggest that you have your GF PIIYB.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

In the U.S., we are producing 35 million respirators per month. More than 500,000 respirators are on the way to two of the more critically impacted areas, New York and Seattle, with arrivals expected starting tomorrow. Read full statement here: https://t.co/V0mmrjSCFG 3/3

— 3M (@3M) March 22, 2020

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

So a question that I'm sure someone on here can answer for me.

I've been fighting OCD pretty bad throughout this entire thing. I've been obsessively taking my temperature (I'm working hard on cutting down on it). I notice that in the morning when I wake up, my temp is 97.0-97.2. When I go to bed, my temp is 97.4 - 97.6. However throughout the day, I notice it's frequently 98.8. 99.1 - anywhere up to 99.4 or so.

Is this due to increased activity throughout the day, etc? I've also noticed times I feel more stressed/ I'm having anxiety, that my temperature is higher.

I wish I could just throw the damn thing away. I know what I feel like when I have a fever. This is with an oral thermometer BTW.

Every time you check your temp you're allowing the "compulsive" side of OCD to win. Your mind tells you research and checking your temp will allow you to feel safe, especially if the temp doesn't rise or even better lowers, but it won't.

The obsession for you is getting the infection, the compulsion is everything you do to make sure you don't have it or to even confirm you do have it, which would allow your self to say, "see, I know you had it." Acting on the compulsions are causing the anxiety. Work towards acting on them less. Begin to stop checking your temp as frequently and possibly stop reading this thread, or begin to cut back. Exposure therapy in this sense may help you calm down.

OCD is the worst. Remember, the more you do to reassure yourself, the worst your anxiety will be. It's difficult to understand, but it's that simple.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by eDave

Pretty rude Monticore.

I’m trying to fit in.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

And through my exhaustive research, I've found that different parts of your mouth can offer various different results.

**** OCD

Think about it this way: how many people are in the world? Of those people, how many have corona? Of those people, how many need hospitalization? Of those people, how many need ICU care? Of those people, how many die?

That's a lot of paring down. Just do your part to prevent spread and relax for a month or two. The overwhelming odds are in favor of you and your family...even if you happen to be in the middle of Lombardy or NYC.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

You've been reduced to eating guitar strings? Holy ****.

Ain't no way I'm getting locked in with a broken guitar string. You don't even know how shitty that would be.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

No I think it'll drive me insane to determine that. I'm giving my thermometer to my girlfriend and having her hide it until someone actually needs to use it.

It's normal:

https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/norm...-temperature#1

And, may I suggest your ask the girlfriend for a BJ. You're scared stiff.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I’m trying to fit in.

LOL. Just ****ing with you. Happens all the time.

DaFace, fix your shit.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by eDave

I'm in and out of there real quick. I've found that most guitar players are douchebags. Employees are worse.

People that hang out in music stores are generally insufferable.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Every time you check your temp you're allowing the "compulsive" side of OCD win. Your mind tells you research and checking your temp will allow you to feel safe, especially if the temp doesn't rise or even better lowers, but it won't.

The obsession for you is getting the infection, the compulsion is everything you do to make sure you don't have it. Acting on the compulsions are causing the anxiety. Work towards acting on them less. Begin to stop checking your temp as frequently and possibly stop reading this thread, or begin to cut back. Exposure therapy in this sense may help you calm down.

OCD is the worst. Remember, the more you do to reassure yourself, the worst your anxiety will be. It's difficult to understand, but it's that simple.

Thank you.

[TLO]

We're all kinda assholes in one way or another around here sometimes, but I'll say again, that this place is an amazing community.

Thanks for helping keep me sane.