***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by loochy

Think about it this way: how many people are in the world? Of those people, how many have corona? Of those people, how many need hospitalization? Of those people, how many need IVU care? Of those people, how many die?

That's a lot of paring down. Just do your part to prevent spread and relax for a month or two. The overwhelming odds are in favor of you and your family.

Logic doesn't work with OCD, unfortunately. That's the whole issue with the disease, it's extremely emotionally and illogical.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're all kinda assholes in one way or another around here sometimes, but I'll say again, that this place is an amazing community.

Thanks for helping keep me sane.

No problem, now go check the expiration date on your toilet paper.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Logic doesn't work with OCD, unfortunately. That's the whole issue with the disease, it's extremely emotionally and illogical.

Well I don't get it, but maybe a single rational thought might penetrate someone's head and at least give them a bit of momentary peace.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Logic doesn't work with OCD, unfortunately. That's the whole issue with the disease, it's extremely emotionally and illogical.

But his point rings true - and I recognize that's the logical way to look at it.

I get trapped in these periods of being completely illogical, and I recognize those points too.

Just taking it day by day.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by loochy

Well I don't get it, but maybe a single rational thought might penetrate someone's head and at least give them a bit of momentary peace.

It may for a brief time, but it won't withstand. Not to say it wasn't a nice gesture or comment. I hope it didn't come off that way.

It was more of just a side comment on OCD and how debilitating and illogical it is. It's much more than basic anxiety.

To beat it you must find a way to come to peace with the worst thing you're obsessing over, i.e. exposure therapy.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

People that hang out in music stores are generally insufferable.

Man, this one time I was feeling out a nice guitar and some dude one amp over started fluffing his tailfeathers with some Nickleback or some shit. I knew what he was doing. It's like that rice burner that pulls up next to you in your Nissan Altima wanting to drag.

Anyway, I layed into the solo from Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone by Cinderella.

He left and I didn't get the guitar. Not enough sustain for my taste. Cheap woods. Worker said it sounded awesome. I said I know.

[oaklandhater]

Louisiana's growth rate for the coronavirus in the last 2 weeks has been faster than any other state/country in the world. https://t.co/EHvva0Jb5F pic.twitter.com/lkJNCRkAv6

— KATC TV3 (@KATCTV3) March 22, 2020

this is a powder keg waiting to blow.

I have a feeling Florida is gonna surpass everyone soon.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're all kinda assholes in one way or another around here sometimes, but I'll say again, that this place is an amazing community.

Thanks for helping keep me sane.

Dude .. We'll get though this.. And this time next year the Chiefs will be coming off a repeat SB win!

[Donger]

Yeah, I mentioned Louisiana early. Odd.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Louisiana's growth rate for the coronavirus in the last 2 weeks has been faster than any other state/country in the world. https://t.co/EHvva0Jb5F pic.twitter.com/lkJNCRkAv6

— KATC TV3 (@KATCTV3) March 22, 2020

this is a powder keg waiting to blow.

I have a feeling Florida is gonna surpass everyone soon.

Bourbon Street... They can't quit partying.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Dude .. We'll get though this.. And this time next year the Chiefs will be coming off a repeat SB win!

Yea TLO. I'm not trying to scare or belittle you. Just playing my role here.

Offer to talk is always open.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by eDave

Man, this one time I was feeling out a nice guitar and some dude one amp over started fluffing his tailfeathers with some Nickleback or some shit. I knew what he was doing. It's like that rice burner that pulls up next to you in your Nissan Altima wanting to drag.

Anyway, I layed into the solo from Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone by Cinderella.

He left and I didn't get the guitar. Not enough sustain for my taste. Cheap woods. Worker said it sounded awesome. I said I know.

great analogy.

Look into getting a Gibson Firebird for sustain.

[oaklandhater]

Ironic. Ponte Vedra Beach today, Sunday afternoon, March 22, 2020.

Way to go, #COVIDIOTS !#StayAtHomeFL #StayHome #FloridaLockdown#COVID19 #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/kyrZZ5rJcd

— Terri ⚖ ⚜ 🎸✌🌴 (@LilPolkSalad) March 22, 2020

****ing DeSantis...

[loochy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Louisiana's growth rate for the coronavirus in the last 2 weeks has been faster than any other state/country in the world. https://t.co/EHvva0Jb5F pic.twitter.com/lkJNCRkAv6
— KATC TV3 (@KATCTV3) March 22, 2020

this is a powder keg waiting to blow.

I have a feeling Florida is gonna surpass everyone soon.

So is the number of infected growing or are they just starting to test? You can't make useful claims like that until widespread testing starts in earnest.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

It may for a brief time, but it won't withstand. Not to say it wasn't a nice gesture or comment. I hope it didn't come off that way.

It was more of just a side comment on OCD and how debilitating and illogical it is. It's much more than basic anxiety.

To beat it you must find a way to come to peace with the worst thing you're obsessing over, i.e. exposure therapy.

My mom had OCD , was very hard to deal with as a kid as I got older I understood more but still didn’t make it easier , it was tough to watch deal with it then the manic depression kicked in on top of that, my brother and sister went 20 years not talking to her because cope with it but both of them are a lot like her.i think we all have a little bit of OCD in us in varying degrees and direction.