***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

So why is Louisiana and Bama getting hit so hard with this thing? Just seems like a strange place for it to grow so rampant.

Because they won't stop gathering in the French Quarter. Did you see the pictures after the Governor canceled seated classes. The people were shoulder to shoulder drinking and partying while thanking him for letting them out of their classes. Yes a few/some were professors and evidently Sean Payton.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

can you think of a worse state to get hit with mass cases ?

Why would any state be better or worse? They're all people.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by TLO

And through my exhaustive research, I've found that different parts of your mouth can offer various different results.

**** OCD

You’ll know based on how you feel according to all the people I know who have it. You get real lethargic, sometimes with a headache, and while you can get a temp not all cases result in one:

If you feel bad then check your temp. Otherwise I don’t think you’re accomplishing much.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Pence: Feds May Let Those Exposed to Virus Return to Work With Masks

The new guidance, to be announced Monday, comes as the number of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. continues to surge.


this shit better not be true.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/vice-p...ork-with-masks

Ok are we going all-in on ending this shit or not? I don’t want some half assed attempt then a month later see a surge in cases again and have to do this again.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

For 15 ****in years?

Ya found looking for inside info for my fantasy football draft , as a chiefs fan since the late 80s , I have been trying to draft a chief player every year .

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Is anyone updating how many people they have tested?

Most won't update until Monday, like the CDC it even says on the site that they will only update Monday-Friday.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by loochy

Why would any state be better or worse? They're all people.

I don't have any issues with the people there I'm just talking in terms of infrastructure louisiana can't deal with a mass spread like NY WA or CA

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Ok are we going all-in on ending this shit or not? I don’t want some half assed attempt then a month later see a surge in cases again and have to do this again.

some states opting to shutdown while others don't is causing mass confusion.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Is anyone updating how many people they have tested?

The Missouri DHSS website used to have a running tally of how many people had been tested.

Now it's gone.

https://health.mo.gov/living/healthc...us/results.php

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Early candidate for n00b of the year 2020


Keep posting and you may make a run

or not nobody wants to hear from n00bs that means keep your trap shut n00b

maybe we should restart the N00b of the year award. First prize: eDave guitar lessons.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Is anyone updating how many people they have tested?

Actually it seems no one who is involved on the medical side really needs testing. Docs are moving forward assuming if the symptoms are there, treat them as an active case. Testing wont change treatment or how we deal with patients.....testing and all of the hand wringing over tests needs to be set aside and deal with the people.

How many tests would you be pleased with? If you had enough tests to make you happy would we have fewer people infected? And would the rate of expansion decrease if you had more tests?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I don't have any issues with the people there I'm just talking in terms of infrastructure louisiana can't deal with a mass spread like NY WA or CA

After looking frantically all ****ing day, at 8:09pm I FINALLY found a segment of the nation that OH doesn't currently think ought to **** right off.

Congrats, Louisiana!!

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I have been reading CP for about 15 years lol was just always to lazy to sign up, but Mahomes gave me strength.

I was going tell you to PM Bob Dole on getting instructions on how to become n00b oty but I think you would have figured that one out

[TLO]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Actually it seems no one who is involved on the medical side really needs testing. Docs are moving forward assuming if the symptoms are there, treat them as an active case. Testing wont change treatment or how we deal with patients.....testing and all of the hand wringing over tests needs to be set aside and deal with the people.

How many tests would you be pleased with? If you had enough tests to make you happy would we have fewer people infected? And would the rate of expansion decrease if you had more tests?

This is probably a fair point.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Actually it seems no one who is involved on the medical side really needs testing. Docs are moving forward assuming if the symptoms are there, treat them as an active case. Testing wont change treatment or how we deal with patients.....testing and all of the hand wringing over tests needs to be set aside and deal with the people.

How many tests would you be pleased with? If you had enough tests to make you happy would we have fewer people infected? And would the rate of expansion decrease if you had more tests?

Chill out, I just asked a question