***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

No. Their first case was on January 20. We had two on January 14.

We had a 6 day start on them to get this contained? Thats confirmed info?

[O.city]

I would highly recommend the reddit forum Covid19 for everyone

There’s a lot of really good stuff on there

[notorious]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Reports suggest a loss of sense of smell and taste might (emphasis on might) be an early sign of #COVID19. We reported March 13 on a study that noted this rare symptom. https://t.co/OMELjvTBA1

— Science News (@ScienceNews) March 23, 2020

Ground breaking stuff.

Your sinuses get clogged and you can’t taste or smell!!!!!

Holy shit!!!!! Who discovered this?!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

My sister is the ****ing worst. She sent a group text message this morning seeing if anyone wanted to buy her kid birthday presents.

Oh, and in case you do, here's our pre-approved Amazon list, this way if you buy something off the list, it drops off, and ensures no one buys him the same thing.

OH, and make sure you order today because Amazon is terribly slow right now.

Thanks and enjoy the pandemic.



****ing firstborn children, man.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

You think he made up the graphs and charts and associated data? If so you must have something showing it so please share.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Seriously, they are adults. Go ahead and think you are going to tell them what to do. Good luck with that.

Sent from my SM-G973U1 using Tapatalk

Yeah well most cases parents control the money, so tell me who should be calling the shots?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We had a 6 day start on them to get this contained? Thats confirmed info?

The ROK date seems solid. The CDC website says January 14 for two cases. Other places seem to say January 20.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister is the ****ing worst. She sent a group text message this morning seeing if anyone wanted to buy her kid birthday presents.

Oh, and in case you do, here's our pre-approved Amazon list, this way if you buy something off the list, it drops off, and ensures no one buys him the same thing.

OH, and make sure you order today because Amazon is terribly slow right now.

Thanks and enjoy the pandemic.



****ing firstborn children, man.

Damn, thats some big balls on your sis.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister is the ****ing worst. She sent a group text message this morning seeing if anyone wanted to buy her kid birthday presents.

Oh, and in case you do, here's our pre-approved Amazon list, this way if you buy something off the list, it drops off, and ensures no one buys him the same thing.

OH, and make sure you order today because Amazon is terribly slow right now.

Thanks and enjoy the pandemic.



****ing firstborn children, man.

Quit being a dick and buy your nephew a birthday present. She made it easy for you.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We had a 6 day start on them to get this contained? Thats confirmed info?

You think we should have locked the country down after 2 cases were found?

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister is the ****ing worst. She sent a group text message this morning seeing if anyone wanted to buy her kid birthday presents.

Oh, and in case you do, here's our pre-approved Amazon list, this way if you buy something off the list, it drops off, and ensures no one buys him the same thing.

OH, and make sure you order today because Amazon is terribly slow right now.

Thanks and enjoy the pandemic.



****ing firstborn children, man.

Lol.

Well at least she is organized.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

The ROK date seems solid. The CDC website says January 14 for two cases. Other places seem to say January 20.

Either date, the 14th or 20th doesn't matter to my shock. The crisis in South Korea is not as bad as here. Way different outcomes. Why is it worse here? Can we just do what they did or has that ship already sailed?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

A bit from an email today from my firm's CEO:

"I do want to share what I consider to be positive news from our office in Shanghai. Our peers in Shanghai have recently been through what we are all experiencing today. While some restrictions are still in place in the city and there is voluntary social distancing, our Shanghai staff is back working in the office, and after five weeks of disruption, business is nearly back to normal. And for the fourth straight day there are no new cases of COVID-19 being reported in China. This is wonderful news! "

Interesting and good news

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Either date, the 14th or 20th doesn't matter to my shock. The crisis in South Korea is not as bad as here. Way different outcomes. Why is it worse here? Can we just do what they did or has that ship already sailed?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...et-its-success

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Either date, the 14th or 20th doesn't matter to my shock. The crisis in South Korea is not as bad as here. Way different outcomes. Why is it worse here? Can we just do what they did or has that ship already sailed?

That ship has long sailed. Knowing what we do now we should have shut the country down weeks ago including all air travel internally and internationally, and ramped up medical gear production nation wide.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Either date, the 14th or 20th doesn't matter to my shock. The crisis in South Korea is not as bad as here. Way different outcomes. Why is it worse here? Can we just do what they did or has that ship already sailed?

We have about 6x the population they do.