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Old 03-16-2020, 11:39 AM  
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Post here. Pertinent free agent signings can still have their own thread. Anyone who replies with a Q, because something is buried in this thread should blah blah AIDS tree.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:46 PM   #1171
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I certainly see the value in keeping Sammy. When all of our horses are healthy, it’s damn hard to keep them from scoring 35-40 points a game.

People like to throw out names like Perriman and Robby Anderson as if it would be no drop off — it would though, make no mistake. Yeah those guys are fast, but they wouldn’t be able to do nearly as well as Watkins when it comes to getting off of press coverage, running routes, and creating YAC.

Keep Patrick healthy, bring Watkins back, and you may see another 40-50 TD season from Pat.
He didn’t have any touchdowns or even games with 65 yards receiving after the opener till the playoffs started.

You overrate him.

If he is worth starter money, it’s on the lower end.

Think about that....the best QB in history throwing him the ball and he didn’t have 65 yards or a single touchdown in 15 or 16 games due to motivation issues and health.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:46 PM   #1172
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Watkins IS NOT worth $21 million. If he doesn’t lower his cap hit than he needs to be gone.
Not $21m, no.

But $10-12m? I think so.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:47 PM   #1173
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Not $21m, no.

But $10-12m? I think so.
I’m a buyer at 10-12m.

He’s not worth more than that.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:48 PM   #1174
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He didn’t have any touchdowns or even games with 65 yards receiving after the opener till the playoffs started.

You overrate him.

If he is worth starter money, it’s on the lower end.

Think about that....the best QB in history throwing him the ball and he didn’t have 65 yards or a single touchdown in 15 or 16 games due to motivation issues and health.
There aren’t many 3rd receivers putting up monster numbers. That’s what he is in this offense. They can’t all tear it up. His value is most there in the fact that no defense can account for all of our weapons at once.

Mahomes lack of health really hurt things too. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Watkins was at his best before Pat got hurt and then after he was really 100% again.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:51 PM   #1175
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In 2 seasons with the best QB in history, Sammy has a total of

1192 yards
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And made 27m
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:52 PM   #1176
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A lot of games, you don’t need Watkins to make a ton of catches to win. And I think that’s what Veach meant when he said that he was signed to get them over the hump in the playoffs.

When you get in those tight games against the best teams and they find a way to mitigate Hill or Kelce, Sammy was the guy who picked up the slack when it was needed most.

$10-12m is worth it to me all day long.
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I’m a buyer at 10-12m.

He’s not worth more than that.
Hes a 3 option, may get bumped to 4 with Hardmon developing.
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Old 03-24-2020, 05:56 PM   #1178
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He didn’t have any touchdowns or even games with 65 yards receiving after the opener till the playoffs started.

You overrate him.

If he is worth starter money, it’s on the lower end.

Think about that....the best QB in history throwing him the ball and he didn’t have 65 yards or a single touchdown in 15 or 16 games due to motivation issues and health.
Where did you get this? Was there a video of him saying he wasn't motivated for a period of games that I somehow missed? If so, can you provide the link please? Ot any evidence at all from his teammates/coaches that speak to this idea? Links please?
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Jones is an idiot. 20 mil per year for Cooper? ****ing nodoby Amari Cooper? Seriously the worst contract ever given to a WR.
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:17 PM   #1181
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His base salary is $14 million. 14 divided on a 4 year extension is 3.5 a year. 14 divided on a 3 year extension is 4.7 a year. Plus a base salary. Gonna be more than 10 a year at least this year.
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:26 PM   #1183
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There aren’t many 3rd receivers putting up monster numbers. That’s what he is in this offense. They can’t all tear it up. His value is most there in the fact that no defense can account for all of our weapons at once.

Mahomes lack of health really hurt things too. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Watkins was at his best before Pat got hurt and then after he was really 100% again.
Interesting that people seem to forget that or just discount it. Mahomes wasn't just out for 2.75 games. He initially sprained his ankle in Week 1 and wasn't right for 12 straight weeks. You could easily make an argument that Pat wasn't 100% himself until the playoffs.

Dinging Sammy for his QB's sketchy health is dumb and short-sighted.
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:36 PM   #1184
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There aren’t many 3rd receivers putting up monster numbers. That’s what he is in this offense. They can’t all tear it up. His value is most there in the fact that no defense can account for all of our weapons at once.

Mahomes lack of health really hurt things too. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Watkins was at his best before Pat got hurt and then after he was really 100% again.
Tyreek missed a chunk of games, he still didn't do much as the #2 receiver.
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Tyreek missed a chunk of games, he still didn't do much as the #2 receiver.
Like Pugs said, he got overpaid to get us over the hump in the playoffs and that’s exactly what he did. Even in 2018, he played his best football in the playoffs. If you can get him back at a more reasonable price, you do it.
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