***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Greene County, Springfield, Mo. Just got the 30 stay at home order. Starting March 26th.
Everyone unless you provide essential services are shopping for essential goods or are exercising.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

A week ago, New York state had 87 detected coronavirus cases per 1m citizens

Here's where a lot of Southern states are *today*... the number of *detected* cases.

LA: 298 per 1m
MS: 107 per 1m
TN: 98 per 1m
GA: 98 per 1m
AR: 72 per 1m
FL: 66 per 1m
SC: 59 per 1m
AL: 44 per 1m

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 24, 2020

Other than Louisiana, which has really ramped up its testing, a lot of those states may be about a week behind the curve in New York in terms of both social distancing *and* testing/case-detection.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 24, 2020

This is horrifying.

[Hammock Parties]

Missouri's COVID-19 stats as of March 24: 255 cases@HealthyLivingMo now has a Cases by County map available at: https://t.co/k6G9rMRWB9. pic.twitter.com/typkp9artF

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) March 24, 2020

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Greene County, Springfield, Mo. Just got the 30 stay at home order. Starting March 26th.
Everyone unless you provide essential services are shopping for essential goods or are exercising.

These are stupid. About 90% of businesses fall under the "essential" umbrella it seems like. 300 people are in Menards and Walmart at once. It only hurts small business with minimal benefit to preventing spreading this disease.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is horrifying.

no worries. In 18 days we can all sit close together, gather in large groups like mega churches.

Saw a piece on CNN as to why the LA is spiking, churches. Pastors telling worshippers that they can lay hands on them and God will cleanse them of the coronavirus.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Missouri's COVID-19 stats as of March 24: 255 cases@HealthyLivingMo now has a Cases by County map available at: https://t.co/k6G9rMRWB9. pic.twitter.com/typkp9artF

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) March 24, 2020

And how many tests overall? If you can find this number I'd be very happy.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is horrifying.

Hopefully those states have been practicing their social distancing.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Looks overweight to me.

Just about everyone in America is.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

no worries. In 18 days we can all sit close together, gather in large groups like mega churches.

Saw a piece on CNN as to why the LA is spiking, churches. Pastors telling worshippers that they can lay hands on them and God will cleanse them of the coronavirus.

Nate Silver also says

It's possible that by Easter, WA and CA will be almost ready to get back to normal while red-state mayors and governors are screaming no

[RJ]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'd eat her out after he creampied her

I guess it would make a good "the time I met so and so" story.

But don't ask for an autograph. That would be a social faux pas.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

You can't possibly know that with any degree of certainty at all.

It appears that <2% of cases are in the severe-critical range. If the virus was just ramping up and there were only 100,000 people infected at that point, you should only see around 2000 in hospitals. I have no clue what the real numbers are/were but that's the point, no one does. We probably won't even have a clue on those until a year or two from now.

I don't know how you or anyone knows that when we refuse to test our general population who are not showing symptoms. We really have no idea how many ppl have it and are asymptomatic or symptomatic.

All we know is the rates of those tested. When we know a certain portion of the infected show no symptoms at all this is something we need to be doing, at least in a small controlled environment.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is horrifying.

We knew these numbers would go up no?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

We knew these numbers would go up no?

New York has a comparatively large and sophisticated health care system. A lot of those red states have a dearth of not only ICU beds, but even primary care providers. They can't sustain infection levels at the rate of NY, which is already faltering and quickly running out of PPE.

[oaklandhater]

Over the past 24 hours, Spain has reported nearly 7,000 new cases of coronavirus and 680 new deaths, raising the total to 42,058 cases and 2,991 dead https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 24, 2020

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spain gonna pass italy.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'd eat her out after he creampied her

LOOK AT ME