***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Although I have empathy for Americans that live paycheck-to-paycheck every American is recommended to have 6th months worth of rent saved before they move out. Or at the very least a month or twos rent. If they don't that it is their own fault and they should take ownership of it.

That being said you are exaggerating. Can't see a way to provide for his family? Lol... There's unemployment and now a stimulus package to help Americans out who lose their job due to the CoronaVirus. **** out of here with that can't provide for his family bs.

I could see if this was like 4th or 5th month of people not working but that isn't the case and you know it.

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by mac459

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

I feel there are many people out there that feel like they are losing everything at the moment, I'm sure that isn't any fun.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

NY has 192 deaths today so far. ugh

No, 14.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Dude.

I don't think that's close to right. I think they're at 192 TOTAL. I believe they reported 14 overnight.

If your source is different, please advise.

If you crossed that up - man, that is the shit you have to be REALLY careful about. Earlier in the thread the guy said a 5 year old was listed as critical when he meant she had simply tested positive.

Really vetting your sources is a big deal right now. I'll remain open to correction here, but I'm not seeing your info anywhere at all.

sorry that is the total. I misunderstood and will change my post

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I feel there are many people out there that feel like they are losing everything at the moment, I'm sure that isn't any fun.

I've seen social media posts of two restaurants that have shut down less than a week after they both started offering carryout only services.

Demolition Man was right. In the future every restaurant is Taco Bell.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by mac459

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

that really ****ing sucks mac. sorry to hear about it

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I've seen social media posts of two restaurants that have shut down less than a week after they both started offering carryout only services.

Demolition Man was right. In the future every restaurant is Taco Bell.

I know Abuehlo's that is in the north land is closing for good and it's the only one in the city, most of their locations are in Texas.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

REVEALED: Boy, 17, who became first US minor to die of coronavirus may have been killed by septic shock complication - as his Uber driver father now battles the disease in California where death toll hits 51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ticle-masthead

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by mac459

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

Sorry dude, I had something similar happen with a buddy last summer, it really sucks.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by mac459

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

that one who sucks the penis is acting like alot of people have ****ing choices to save up that kind of money before they move, that some sheltered bullshit talk there! lol

Anyways, sorry about your buddy man! That sucks! condolences

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I've seen social media posts of two restaurants that have shut down less than a week after they both started offering carryout only services.

We had a few announce as well

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I've seen social media posts of two restaurants that have shut down less than a week after they both started offering carryout only services.

Demolition Man was right. In the future every restaurant is Taco Bell.

We've been carry-out only in town for a week now. So far, the only thing permanently closed is Ruby Tuesday. This community is pretty good about supporting local, so I hope all the mom and pop places can make it through this.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by wazu

Weird to think that in these studies for Hydroxychlorquine, there's going to be a bunch of people given a placebo for scientific purposes.

That's the way all clinical trials work.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by mac459

You remember the other day you got bitchy at me for asking you questions, because I was behind the curve. Due to a buddy of mine killing himself.



Well he killed himself because he sank his entire life savings into starting a business. Around $750,000 or so, he was still getting it off the ground, when everything started happening.


So you need to shut the **** up about “exaggerating” bullshit, because what DJ said is a very real thing. Just because you live a sheltered life and make it obvious that you have very little real world experience. Doesn’t mean people out there aren’t killing themselves, or will do it. So it’s obviously the case and you don’t know it.

Well shit that is just awful. What in the world kind of business was he in that could go so hopelessly south in that short amount of time?

[wazu]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That's the way all clinical trials work.

I get that. Just unsettling to think that in the name of science there has to be a significant number of people who believe they are being treated with the potentially life saving drug, but aren't. A pretty high stakes spin of the roulette wheel.