***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Wait...what? It takes 4 days to get results for this? That can't be helping things...

The new tests are suppose to get results a lot quicker than that. Originally it was 8 or 9 days.

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[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's good.



Still wish we had immobilize individualized numbers done by counties/states.

My weather channel app just did an update that has the break down by county nationwide.

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[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's good.



Still wish we had immobilize individualized numbers done by counties/states.

What county you curious about?

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[loochy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Goddamn NY has around half the cases in the entire country, put a wall up and keep those ****ers in their own state.

Hell, not even the whole state is necessary. Maybe a big 100 mile radius around NYC to include the dense parts of Jersey and Conn would do the trick.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well shit that is just awful. What in the world kind of business was he in that could go so hopelessly south in that short amount of time?

He was still building the office and when all this hit some other investors, started calling. People with money to be okay were calling him freaking out and wanting to pull their money out and saying they didn’t want to stay in.



He was setting up a small over the road trucking company. Had the shop built, was almost done with the office, and entire yard/parking lot. Guess he had some contracts in the works with a few companies. So I think he and everyone else would have been ok, but the rich people lost their shit and needed their money back.


After seeing what my friend had invested compared to the rich assholes, they were less than half of him. So it’s very frustrating.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

The news

Care to be more specific?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

What county you curious about?

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Buchanan County Missouri

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hell, not even the whole state is necessary. Maybe a big 100 mile radius around NYC to include the dense parts of Jersey and Conn would do the trick.

You're chasing two-week-old cases.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Also interested. I couldn't find a total tested more recently than a few days ago

This is definitely a good thing, but I am guessing that our "per capita" testing is a lot lower than some other countries.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/t...19-per-million

I saw it on TV. But basically we have been running at over 15K+ tests a day since March 19th.

On March 19th CDC + Private was at 137k Tests. The problem is some states don't report negative tests (why I dont know)

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

Care to be more specific?

A 3 letter news channel.........

[loochy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You're chasing two-week-old cases.

Not chasing, just containing what is known. Obviously, a large number of cases will drive a large number of infections in the same area. I'm not saying it can't move elsewhere, but a hotbed is a hotbed.

[BigRedChief]

The ventilator tech has been around forever. Its still used in many part of our life, If interested in the "Venturi effect" science, here ya go
https://youtu.be/H3TcLoapJBo


The average vent that has the full bells and whistles ventilator costs between $4-$40K. It has around 1,700 parts. The smaller versions that we use to transport patients from point A to Point B are easier to produce because of their size and less complicated design,



But, the crucial part that works with a ventilator is the Charlotte value. This valve is patented and the company is already suing people in Italy printing the part. Even though they are on back order for months.

Heres a vid of how they 3D printed the valve and saved lifes in Italy:

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Buchanan County Missouri

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[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I mean if their subways are still running..........

You can't close the subway in a city where 90% of the population (including doctors and nurses) uses it to get to work.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by loochy

Not chasing, just containing what is known. Obviously, a large number of cases will drive a large number of infections in the same area. I'm not saying it can't move elsewhere, but a hotbed is a hotbed.

You can't play Whack-a-Mole with this. You need to fill the holes.