***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Recoveries have jumped to 65% of all closed cases

2 -3 days ago they were 30%-35%

Not seeing much of the media talking about that

[Donger]

5600 new cases in NY already. What a pisser.

[Donger]

Indiana new cases up 336, from 645 total yesterday.

[SupDock]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...edName=newsOne

Lombardy alone had 541 deaths in the last day.

[srvy]

Kinda interesting.

Please. Stay. Home. https://t.co/SSrhumaJ0j

— X-Mode Social (@xmodesocial) March 26, 2020

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by mililo4cpa

My point in all of this: You seem like a good person, and I assume that you are not trolling (you may very well be)....but for me, whenever I see you post, all I hear is my step-mom's mom screeching panic and death in a situation that really calls for calm, clear heads to prevail.

I just assumed EVERYONE had the same mental image reading OH's posts.

[BleedingRed]

Today is day 4 of NY using hydroxychloroquine, zithromax and chloroquine on those w/ Coronavirus.

Shouldn't the Media be interested if it is working?

Has the Media even inquire about updates on the potential game changer.

Their silence is a good indicator it might be working.

— C3 (@C_3C_3) March 27, 2020

Point of this post is to draw attention to the trial.. Where are the updates?

[dirk digler]

WHO launches today the SOLIDARITY mass drug trial.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...rus-treatments

the World Health Organization (WHO) announced a large global trial, called SOLIDARITY, to find out whether any can treat infections with the new coronavirus for the dangerous respiratory disease. It’s an unprecedented effort—an all-out, coordinated push to collect robust scientific data rapidly during a pandemic. The study, which could include many thousands of patients in dozens of countries, has been designed to be as simple as possible so that even hospitals overwhelmed by an onslaught of COVID-19 patients can participate.

The drugs are:
Remdesivir
Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine
Ritonavir/lopinavir
Ritonavir/lopinavir and interferon-beta

[Hammock Parties]

Trials in NY haven't started yet according to the article published yesterday.

[displacedinMN]

Minnesota-Stay at home order starting Friday night.

Not hard to do. Unless we need food.

I like people. Just not large crowds. I'm good.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Trials in NY haven't started yet according to the article published yesterday.

I dont think thats right

#Hydroxychloroquine #COVID19 https://t.co/BUKuVA2scv

— Bumpy News (@kjepeneter) March 27, 2020

(please ignore the new network)

But more and more people are asking for the drug and recovering. How long are people going to drag their feet on this issue. The treatment exists, its right there.......

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Today is day 4 of NY using hydroxychloroquine, zithromax and chloroquine on those w/ Coronavirus.

Shouldn't the Media be interested if it is working?

Has the Media even inquire about updates on the potential game changer.

Their silence is a good indicator it might be working.

— C3 (@C_3C_3) March 27, 2020

Point of this post is to draw attention to the trial.. Where are the updates?

Because it’s gonna take a while?

[wazu]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I dont think thats right

#Hydroxychloroquine #COVID19 https://t.co/BUKuVA2scv

— Bumpy News (@kjepeneter) March 27, 2020

(please ignore the new network)

But more and more people are asking for the drug and recovering. How long are people going to drag their feet on this issue. The treatment exists, its right there.......

It sounds like it's being administered pretty broadly. If it's as good as advertised, death rates should start to plummet.

[Hammock Parties]

I don't think these are "official" trials.

However...

Encouraging: French Clinical trial

36 patients treated in 3 Groups for 6 days (Graph):

1- Black: No drug
2- Blue: Hydroxycholorquine (HxC). 50% virus cleared
3- Green: HxC + Azithromycin: 100% cleared in 5days

More news from China trials next monthhttps://t.co/rCHyKuaO5Y pic.twitter.com/mqU7wPggfF

— Dlawer Ala'Aldeen (@Dlawer) March 21, 2020

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Today is day 4 of NY using hydroxychloroquine, zithromax and chloroquine on those w/ Coronavirus.

Shouldn't the Media be interested if it is working?

Has the Media even inquire about updates on the potential game changer.

Their silence is a good indicator it might be working.

— C3 (@C_3C_3) March 27, 2020

Point of this post is to draw attention to the trial.. Where are the updates?

I think that's kinda the point of a double-blind trial, no?

You don't really get real-time updates on those things. Just gotta see how they play out. I suspect they'll have 'extraction points' where they check progress after a week, 2 weeks, etc.... but I don't think we'll get a lot of new public data on that until it's truly reviewed by the medical community and protocols are implemented.

With the sympathetic use exception already in place, there's really not much else that can be done right now. You just have to test it and see if we can start using it as a tested 'treatment'. Until those test results are verified, we're in a holding pattern.