***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by D2112

So where I’m at they’re rationing bottled water. One case per customer. There was a picture in Pennsylvania of tractor trailers waiting in line to be loaded at the nestle bottling plant. The line was as far as the eye could see. This is disconcerting to me because my tap water should be labeled with a skull and crossbones. I may have to price out filters.

This is pre-coronavirus.....Nestle pulls 1 million gallons an hour out of spring down here. Now, its so low that you cant raft in the spring. They have never paid a single cent for the water since WWII.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude do you just spend all day seeking out sad stories? You need to take a break, bro.

This is reality. You should join the real world instead of the rainbows and unicorns world you are living in.

People don't want to read personal beefs in here, You need to stop personal attacks that **** up this page AND then cause people to respond to your personal attacks. It can go on for pages. That may be okay in DC but we aint posting in DC. Just stop for crissakes. Stay on topic.

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is pre-coronavirus.....Nestle pulls 1 million gallons an hour out of spring down here. Now, its so low that you cant raft in the spring. They have never paid a single cent for the water since WWII.

Yeah, but there’s no Poland spring on the shelves either. Has that run dry too?

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is reality. You should join the real world instead of the rainbows and unicorns world you are living in.

People don't want to read personal beefs in here, You need to stop personal attacks that **** up this page AND then cause people to respond to your personal attacks. It can go on for pages, That may be okay in DC but we aint posting in DC. Just stop for crissakes. Stay on topic.

Why don’t you post some good news once in a while? It’s out there you know. If you’re interested in it.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by D2112

Why don’t you post some good news once in a while? It’s out there you know. If you’re interested in it.

A few of these guys love negative news. It's mind boggling.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by D2112

Why don’t you post some good news once in a while? It’s out there you know. If you’re interested in it.

I posted about all the good news about vents and they may get us more vents soon.No one responded to that.

Is it so weird with my background that I post about the lack of PPE for health care workers, advocate for them? Things arnt going so well for the people who are fighting this on the front lines.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is reality. You should join the real world instead of the rainbows and unicorns world you are living in.

People don't want to read personal beefs in here, You need to stop personal attacks that **** up this page AND then cause people to respond to your personal attacks. It can go on for pages. That may be okay in DC but we aint posting in DC. Just stop for crissakes. Stay on topic.

Whatever....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

A few of these guys love negative news. It's mind boggling.

It's one thing to point out negative stories. It's another to nothing but then have anxiety attacks over them.

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I posted about all the good news about vents and they may get us more vents soon.No one responded to that.

Is it so weird with my background that I post about the lack of PPE for health care workers, advocate for them? Things arnt going so well for the people who are fighting this on the front lines.

What about our low mortality rate here in the US (1.3%) compared to the anti vaccination European countries like Italy (9.6%) ? That’s good news. We have more people being tested and less people dying in the United States. There’s my good news for you to frown on

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by D2112

Yeah, but there’s no Poland spring on the shelves either. Has that run dry too?

Why are they having a run on bottled water? I've heard no reports of water supplies being contaminated, transferred somehow because of tap water.

I understand in a tornado or hurricane, the pipes that carry the water get damaged, But this is a head scratcher

[Demonpenz]

she died doing what she loved

[O.city]

https://www.sanmiguelcountyco.gov/Ci...s.aspx?AID=489

County in Colorado going to start serology testing. Maybe we’ll get some good news out of that I hope

[O.city]

Originally Posted by D2112

What about our low mortality rate here in the US (1.3%) compared to the anti vaccination European countries like Italy (9.6%) ? That’s good news. We have more people being tested and less people dying in the United States. There’s my good news for you to frown on

What does any vaccination have to do with this?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It's one thing to point out negative stories. It's another to nothing but then have anxiety attacks over them.

See you just couldn't let it go. You had to continue on. This isn't about me, When its happened with multiple people, its about you.

How many people have you beefed with in this thread for PAGES? You are the one that needs to chill and stop attacking everyone who's not buying your everything is rainbows schtick.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

she died doing what she loved

This girl lived close to you?