***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

then you werent watching close, or only hearing what you want to hear. either way you are wrong.

Uh no, I watched what they just showed. And they didn't show him saying that. If he said it then okay but they didn't show that.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I didn't see that part. Might have been nice for them show them saying that in the report.

well if you didnt watch it then i wouldnt keep saying it wasnt said.


they all 3 IMMEDIATELY said " that IS the best case scenario" and birx added that was counting on 100% cooperation on the stay at home orders...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Uh no, I watched what they just showed. And they didn't show him saying that. If he said it then okay but they didn't show that.

well i watched the press conference yesterday live and they definitely showed him saying it. thats where i saw it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Closed? No ice fishing?

It gets dangerous on the lakes around this time, huts have to be off by end of march and then regular fishing doesn't start up till third weekend of may.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

well if you didnt watch it then i wouldnt keep saying it wasnt said.


they all 3 IMMEDIATELY said " that IS the best case scenario" and birx added that was counting on 100% cooperation on the stay at home orders...

Once again, they didn't show that part. And I am not "keep saying they didn't say that". In fact, I jsut replied to your overreactive post that "if he said that then okay"....

JFC

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Once again, they didn't show that part. And I am not "keep saying they didn't say that". In fact, I jsut replied to your overreactive post that "if he said that then okay"....

JFC

Overreactive post. Ok, kettle.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Once again, they didn't show that part. And I am not "keep saying they didn't say that". In fact, I jsut replied to your overreactive post that "if he said that then okay"....

JFC

you keep saying they didnt show that part. they didnt show it when? i SAW it on the tv during the live press conference, so yeah they definitely showed that part.

you must have missed it if you actually watched. or you are just stirring shit.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

There's more to that story, if it's even true at all. If anything she should have worn the mask and let them fire her.

The point is lack of PPE's in hospitals is endangering the patients and healthcare workers. Those healthcare workers are risking their lives every day. Worried about bringing the virus home to their family.

These are our front line soldiers fighting this virus. Doctors, nurses, Respiratory Therapists and all the other hospital staff that are risking their lives. If it was our military soldiers, would we send them into a battle for us without a helmet, flak jacket, weapons etc.? Of course not, If its a war, act like it. Get our soldiers that are fighting this virus the equipment they need to stay alive while fighting for us.

[carlos3652]

Let’s get back on track

[SAUTO]

oh i get it. you watched a clip of it THIS MORNING...


no wonder.


i wouldnt be saying someone didnt say something if you didnt even watch the press conference.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by D2112

City morgue nearing capacity in New York City (yikes). They’re bringing in refrigerator trucks

I thought that was what the east river was for, no?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

you keep saying they didnt show that part. they didnt show it when? i SAW it on the tv during the live press conference, so yeah they definitely showed that part.

you must have missed it if you actually watched. or you are just stirring shit.

I said I saw a news report this morning. I get it, you SAW it. I am proud of you. I even conceded that if he said it then okay.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

oh i get it. you watched a clip of it THIS MORNING...


no wonder.


i wouldnt be saying someone didnt say something if you didnt even watch the press conference.

[2112]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I thought that was what the east river was for, no?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS_General_Slocum

100’s of Bodies washed up on the shore of north brother island (that’s where Typhoid Mary was quarantined)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nort...(New_York_City)

I’ve been on that island. It’s eerie and the harbor police are terrified to go there at night.

There’s your east river history lesson for the day

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

well if you didnt watch it then i wouldnt keep saying it wasnt said.


they all 3 IMMEDIATELY said " that IS the best case scenario" and birx added that was counting on 100% cooperation on the stay at home orders...

And given several states still haven't put in place full stay at home orders, we aren't doing what is necessary in that model. I still can't believe Florida is still acting like, well, Florida.