***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

That's the only decent thing out of my situation. Had results in two days.

Who knows if the results are valid, but...

Yeah some of the negative tests I’ve heard of are stories like yours.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Quest diagnostics.

And they can only process 30k a day

Hmmm. Not good. I've known a few people that have been tested and gotten their results in a day or two max. Hopefully they can get caught up on their backlog.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hmmm. Not good. I've known a few people that have been tested and gotten their results in a day or two max. Hopefully they can get caught up on their backlog.

I guess those are the National ones.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hmmm. Not good. I've known a few people that have been tested and gotten their results in a day or two max. Hopefully they can get caught up on their backlog.

The fact is there isn't any facility that was built for nor prepared to do testing on a mass scale like this. Unfortunately as more people get tested it could impact turnaround times. They are saying a test that will provide results in minutes will be ready to go this week or next. That will help a lot.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

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Yeah, I don't have any issue owning that (and I alluded to it in my post).


Good to see OTWP is still kicking. Hang in there man, sounds like you should be on the way up at least.

[SAUTO]

Well they are sending the Military after the drug runners now to stop the spread of Coronavirus

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The fact is there isn't any facility that was built for nor prepared to do testing on a mass scale like this. Unfortunately as more people get tested it could impact turnaround times. They are saying a test that will provide results in minutes will be ready to go this week or next. That will help a lot.

Yep.

They’ve had to pump these out so fast that they aren’t as accurate as they’re wild like though. All of these tests are that way though

[SAUTO]

So why do we really need to send all this military in that direction?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I am asking how you know this and what about using a Nebulizer, that uses Albuterol sulfate which comes from salt and is also in the rescue inhaler, makes a person more contagious.

The nebulizer increases aerosolization, which means more respiratory droplets, which means more airborne pathogens.

[KCrockaholic]

Quest Diagnostics sucks

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The nebulizer increases aerosolization, which means more respiratory droplets, which means more airborne pathogens.

Does it make the person more contagious? Like when I got sick in late January and I tested negative for Flu A and B, they were both negative, my doctor tested me for RSV and I was negative for that as well. My breathing was so bad that he treated me for RSV the nebulizer being part of that regiment including Prednisone and antibiotics. Well I always take a treatment at lunch time. The week after I went back to work a couple of the people I worked with started getting sick too. One ended up being treated for Pneumonia and the other was treated for the flu.
I am wondering if I am the reason for that now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Feels tingly like a short run on a cold day.

Albuterol is a short acting beta agonist. The beta receptors in the lungs relax, but it causes an increase in cardiac contractility and heart rate. Tachycardia is common after use, as is tremor and anxiety.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Does it make the person more contagious? Like when I got sick in late January and I tested negative for Flu A and B my doctor tested me for RSV and I was negative for that as well. My breathing was so bad that he treated me for RSV the nebulizer being part of that regiment including Prednisone and antibiotics. Well I always take a treatment at lunch time. The week after I went back to work a couple of the people I worked with started getting sick too. One ended up being treated for Pneumonia and the other was treated for the flu.
I am wondering if I am the reason for that now.

IIRC It spreads it farther and allows it to stay suspended in the air for longer. IIRC that’s how it makes you more contagious

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Well they are sending the Military after the drug runners now to stop the spread of Coronavirus

Yea, I caught part of that.....not sure why we need to know that right now.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

If anything, it makes it hurt a bit more. Waiting on a call back from my doc.

your cilia and linings in your lungs are inflamed from the coughing. I’m assuming the inhaler is albuterol, correct? You will get use to the drug after a couple of times. Hear that a lot from first time users, this albuterol doesn’t help or makes it worse.

That’s still the best non-invasive and or non-dangerous drug we have for inflammation in the lungs. It’s a proven drug for over 30+ years. When you take the hit, breathe in deep and hold it for 10 seconds. Helps bypass the upper parts of the lungs that has to be raw by now and get down into the alveoli area of the lungs. When you get those alveoli popping open, your going to feel a lot better.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I am asking how you know this and what about using a Nebulizer, that uses Albuterol sulfate which comes from salt and is also in the rescue inhaler, makes a person more contagious.

rescue inhalers make you more contagious? Who said that BS?