***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

23,833 new cases so far. 666 deaths.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I said this weeks ago but I'm a socialist so



Just a reminder that people laid off in Canada are getting CAD$2000 (~USD$1400). Per month.

The UK is covering 80% of laid-off worker wages for at least 3 months.

And all we can do is $1200 per person. Once. In 20 weeks from now.

They should. They won't.

Either pay everyone or let everyone go back to work.

[ljmhawk]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

you can enter direct deposit information in irs.com. They will automatically use direct deposit if available.

don’t think you can at this time. if you didn’t select direct deposit at the time you filed your taxes you can’t change it now. they are trying to find a way for people to change it

[Kiimo]

Just do a rent and mortgage freeze.

But I guess that will "ruin the economy" as if this won't anyway

[BigRedChief]

Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing


CNN) A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.

Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/02/h...ter/index.html

[petegz28]

Michigan is clearly the latest hot spot. WTF?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The UK is covering 80% of laid-off worker wages for at least 3 months.

And all we can do is $1200 per person. Once. In 20 weeks from now.

1. The tax rate in the UK is much higher, they're already used to having tons living on government cheddar.

2. The money gets deposited like in a week or two, chill.

3. If things are still bad next month they can do another round of stimulus, which I'm sure was the plan from the beginning.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

23,833 new cases so far. 666 deaths.

[ljmhawk]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

1. The tax rate in the UK is much higher, they're already used to having tons living on government cheddar.

2. The money gets deposited like in a week or two, chill.

3. If things are still bad next month they can do another round of stimulus, which I'm sure was the plan from the beginning.

2. problem is a lot of people can’t wait another week or 2. unemployment is taking forever for these people as well

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
CNN) A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.

Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/02/h...ter/index.html

If that truly is the case then either just about everyone is immune or asymptomatic or the spread would be ****ing outrageous by now.

Or while it might be able to be transmitted like that, the odds are so ****ing small that it isn't worth worrying about.

At one point do we scare ourselves into a full paralysis? Both economic and physical?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Michigan is clearly the latest hot spot. WTF?

Yes everyone knew this was coming. That is why they have been screaming about getting more vents.

[TLO]

Take this for what it's worth

Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-ste...f-the-pandemic

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by TLO

Take this for what it's worth

Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-ste...f-the-pandemic

Good.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Anyone know If I can just enter direct deposit info somewhere for that stimulus check? I had them mail my tax return ****

No disrespect but why the hell would you mail your tax return in in this day and age?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If that truly is the case then either just about everyone is immune or asymptomatic or the spread would be ****ing outrageous by now.

Or while it might be able to be transmitted like that, the odds are so ****ing small that it isn't worth worrying about.

At one point do we scare ourselves into a full paralysis? Both economic and physical?

National Academy of Sciences is a serious organization. No way they put that out there without a scientific method, peer reviewed study data to back it up.