***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Hopefully there's a ton of false positives in there.

Unfortunately, I think it's probably the opposite

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Hopefully there's a ton of false positives in there.

She didn't say but Birx seems like the type to say if they were.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think there's much of a chance that LA opens up in 3 weeks, especially since the governor closed down the schools for the remainder of the academic school year, which was to end on June 12.

Hope they do that here. I can distance teach the rest of the year.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unfortunately, I think it's probably the opposite

It's all melting together these days, but I thought they were having a problem with false positives/negatives due to the type of test they were administering? Something about the test picking up COVID, just not this strain?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Just shut the **** up!

He's right; you're not. Embrace that reality and move on, FFS.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well, that was fun.

I put in a Ralphs order last Saturday to be delivered via Instacart that arrived about 90 minutes ago. I spent the better part of an hour spraying Clorox Cleaner with Bleach on everything.

Not only did the driver make substitutions, even though I clearly marked "No Substitutions", I paid at least $30 dollars more than if I'd gone to the store myself because Ralphs, for whatever reason, didn't apply my Ralphs card for coupons and the driver didn't pick up some of the more important items.

So, guess where I'm going tomorrow morning at 7 am?

Such a waste of time and money. I'll just mask and glove up from now on.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Hope they do that here. I can distance teach the rest of the year.

Yeah, my 6th Grader is attending classes daily on Zoom and my 2nd grader is doing Zoom Class two hours a week plus her homework, which is graded by the teacher as normal.

The funny thing is that the kids really don't miss school at this point because they're having the Zoom meetings with classmates and teachers and they're allowed two 30 minute FaceTime sessions per day with their friends.

What they do seem to miss is all of their extra-curricular activities such as their respective school musicals, Glee and Glee, Jr., After School Enrichment Programs and recess with their friends.

Academically speaking, nothing has changed (so far, anyway).

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unfortunately, I think it's probably the opposite

Yep

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

It's all melting together these days, but I thought they were having a problem with false positives/negatives due to the type of test they were administering? Something about the test picking up COVID, just not this strain?

Unfortunately, I've heard more stories about False Negatives than False Positives from those medical workers in my family and close circle of friends.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

He's right; you're not. Embrace that reality and move on, FFS.

Explain how you know that

[PAChiefsGuy]

2,700 new cases in Louisiama

Https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/healt...ike/index.html

[eDave]

My grocery store is now spraying all the carts in a cordoned off area. Lot of guys in the parking lot gathering carts for a spray.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by eDave

My grocery store is now spraying all the carts in a cordoned off area. Lot of guys in the parking lot gathering carts for a spray.

Just went to Walmart here and its the first time I've encountered waiting in line to get in a store. It didn't seem like they were limiting the number of people in the store just that they were only letting 1 person in the cart area at a time so they could wipe down the carts.

[Donger]

Looks like were going to pass through 30,000 new cases today. Damn.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

My grocery store is now spraying all the carts in a cordoned off area. Lot of guys in the parking lot gathering carts for a spray.

I wonder what they are using.