***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...74/ciaa375.pdf

Some good news for people that have been avoiding eating out over the last few weeks.

[Bwana]

I'm starting to get cabin fever and I need to find more projects to do around the place. Hopefully it gets warmer and I can get out and do some 4 wheeling/shooting soooooooooon.

[F150]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I'm starting to get cabin fever and I need to find more projects to do around the place. Hopefully it gets warmer and I can get out and do some 4 wheeling/shooting soooooooooon.

I lined out on a supply of steel and am getting after welding projects Ive had in hopper, my setal guy called yesterday and ill get it all Monday

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know. I assume that they can't synthesize plasma, so that's a lot of blood. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yep. That's the problem with it. It works great, but doing it at scale is really tough.

[dlphg9]

What happens if they aren't able to develop a vaccine and we learn that COVID 19 is infecting people after tgeyve already been infected? Seems like that would lead to the end of times.

Viruses are much more difficult to treat than bacteria. Even after all these years we can't vaccinate or cure AIDS, the flu vaccine doesnt stop the flu and we dont even have a way to stop the flu after you've been infected. Yeah there is Tamiflu, but that's not a cure and isnt very effective especially if you do t take it in the very beginning.

Everyone is hoping that a vaccine is ready in the nect year to year and a half, but what if none of the ones that are being tested work correctly? Finding a vaccine is much more difficult than most people think.

So what is the game plan if no vaccine is made? We can't go on like this forever.

[Discuss Thrower]

First of many bank failures occurs in West Virginia.

[BigRedChief]

New York needs more ventilators, and we are answering their call for help.

We'll be sending 140 ventilators to help NY because Oregon is in a better position right now. We must do all that we can to help those on the front lines of this response.

— Governor Kate Brown (@OregonGovBrown) April 4, 2020

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

What happens if they aren't able to develop a vaccine and we learn that COVID 19 is infecting people after tgeyve already been infected? Seems like that would lead to the end of times.

Viruses are much more difficult to treat than bacteria. Even after all these years we can't vaccinate or cure AIDS, the flu vaccine doesnt stop the flu and we dont even have a way to stop the flu after you've been infected. Yeah there is Tamiflu, but that's not a cure and isnt very effective especially if you do t take it in the very beginning.

Everyone is hoping that a vaccine is ready in the nect year to year and a half, but what if none of the ones that are being tested work correctly? Finding a vaccine is much more difficult than most people think.

So what is the game plan if no vaccine is made? We can't go on like this forever.

Hopefully it goes away like SARS v1 .I don't think they ever developed a vaccine for SARS.

The flu shot would be more effective if everybody actually got it , it would still be around but it would be mitigated.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

First of many bank failures occurs in West Virginia.

though the bank had been experiencing difficulties since 2015 and its 2019 capital levels were too low, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. announced Friday.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

though the bank had been experiencing difficulties since 2015 and its 2019 capital levels were too low, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. announced Friday.

Was about to quote the same thing

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

What happens if they aren't able to develop a vaccine and we learn that COVID 19 is infecting people after tgeyve already been infected? Seems like that would lead to the end of times.

Viruses are much more difficult to treat than bacteria. Even after all these years we can't vaccinate or cure AIDS, the flu vaccine doesnt stop the flu and we dont even have a way to stop the flu after you've been infected. Yeah there is Tamiflu, but that's not a cure and isnt very effective especially if you do t take it in the very beginning.

Everyone is hoping that a vaccine is ready in the nect year to year and a half, but what if none of the ones that are being tested work correctly? Finding a vaccine is much more difficult than most people think.

So what is the game plan if no vaccine is made? We can't go on like this forever.

There is no real game plan if no vaccine is made. You'd have to drastically change the way we live. That's all you can do really.

That said I'm confident they'll be able to come up with a vaccine. I haven't read anything about this Virus being like AIDs.

[Hoopsdoc]

My wife is a clerk at the post office. One of her coworkers kids woke up really sick this morning. 104 fever, cough, sore throat. And this dumb broad came to work anyway.

Didn’t call or anything, only said something AFTER she got there. People are so freaking dumb.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Donger

though the bank had been experiencing difficulties since 2015 and its 2019 capital levels were too low, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. announced Friday.

Predictable response by a predictable poster.


01/30/2020 | 11:37am EDT
By Michael S. Derby

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York added $82.58 billion in new liquidity to financial markets Thursday, but the overall outstanding amount of interventions held roughly steady.

The Fed's money entered eligible banks' coffers in two ways. One was an overnight repurchase-agreement operation, or repo, that totaled $48.78 billion, the other was via a $33.80 billion 14-day repo.

In both cases so-called primary dealers took less than the Fed offered. Due to the expiration of past interventions, overall temporary central-bank liquidity ticked down $1.5 billion to $173.7 billion.

Fed repo interventions take in Treasurys, agency and mortgage bonds from the dealers, in what is effectively a short-term loan of central-bank cash, collateralized by the bonds. Primary dealers are limited in the amount of liquidity they can


The too-big-to-fail banks were in trouble months ago, but they get the benefit of direct access to bailout money thanks to FOMC owing to the fact that they've been deemed... too big to fail.

First Bank of Hooterville though? Nope. They get shut down and their assets get sucked up.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

What happens if they aren't able to develop a vaccine and we learn that COVID 19 is infecting people after tgeyve already been infected? Seems like that would lead to the end of times.

Viruses are much more difficult to treat than bacteria. Even after all these years we can't vaccinate or cure AIDS, the flu vaccine doesnt stop the flu and we dont even have a way to stop the flu after you've been infected. Yeah there is Tamiflu, but that's not a cure and isnt very effective especially if you do t take it in the very beginning.

Everyone is hoping that a vaccine is ready in the nect year to year and a half, but what if none of the ones that are being tested work correctly? Finding a vaccine is much more difficult than most people think.

So what is the game plan if no vaccine is made? We can't go on like this forever.

You get it, develop some immunity and hope it lasts.

[Marcellus]

Friend of mine from OKC shipped me a bottle of Wellers Antique 107 . I plan to go out in style.