***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

As much as I would love sports to come back asap, that plan would be a disaster if someone, especially a high profile player, got sick and died.

If you look at demographics of who actually dies from this, I'd be much more concerned that it would be a coach. Maybe have the coaches go virtual. Refs too. A bunch of hovering heads on big screen TVs shouting down at the players all game.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Due to automation and advances in tech, 30% of all our jobs are going away in 5 years. Whether you or anyone else likes or denies it, its coming.

We will need some sort of universal income to keep a floor under American citizens. Or there will really be trouble in the streets. Same argument that most are getting an advance on their 2020 tax refund soon. Politicians saying the virus isn't their fault. Not their fault they don't have a job, Automation will effect some industries more than others but all will take a hit on jobs. It wont be the workers fault.

Smells like politics to me.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by wazu

If you look at demographics of who actually dies from this, I'd be much more concerned that it would be a coach. Maybe have the coaches go virtual. Refs too. A bunch of hovering heads on big screen TVs shouting down at the players all game.

You're saying there is a chance we could get rid of Mike Matheny.....alright I'm on board, play ball.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

That seems incredibly stupid. The amount of tests it would consume to regularly test players, coaches, execs, transportation people, hotel people, chefs, stadium workers would be absurd.

Originally Posted by Mecca

The logistics of doing that are a nightmare but hey when you're a 10 billion a year business it's hard to just let that go.

And one new positive test and the whole team is out too.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Smells like politics to me.

Its math.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Eat a dick all you Debbie Downers

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-early-arizona

Could the state just say no you guys can’t do it.

[O.city]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0406125507.htm

Grain of salt, but it’s predicting the US has detected 1.7% of all infections

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Its math.

No, it's politics. Stop it.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Due to automation and advances in tech, 30% of all our jobs are going away in 5 years. Whether you or anyone else likes or denies it, its coming.

We will need some sort of universal income to keep a floor under American citizens. Or there will really be trouble in the streets. Same argument that most are getting an advance on their 2020 tax refund soon. Politicians saying the virus isn't their fault. Not their fault they don't have a job, Automation will effect some industries more than others but all will take a hit on jobs. It wont be the workers fault.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

No, it's politics. Stop it.

I thought it was a comedy routine.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Could the state just say no you guys can’t do it.

Yes. But I don’t think Arizona would. However, it doesn’t matter. This is just an idea that someone floated. The logistics would be to difficult. It’s just wishful thinking. No sports until a vaccine or great therapeutics are in regular circulation. Sucks but it is what it is.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I thought it was a comedy routine.

It's all 5gs fault, yea!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

No, it's politics. Stop it.

Dropped

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's obviously more than just that. They were clueless as DJ pointed out. These models and experts have been so far off that your time would have been better spent reading a Deberg thread than discussing their models.. Whatever shit take Deberg has would be more accurate.

I think they are the same people who work in the service department scheduling for satellite and cable companies.

"Your appointment is confirmed and your technician will arrive sometime between 8:00am and 5:00pm."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0406125507.htm

Grain of salt, but it’s predicting the US has detected 1.7% of all infections

Their data is based upon information from a Lancet study published last week that was largely dependent upon early reports of caseload from Wuhan. Therefore, if one is skeptical of the information from Wuhan, then this information is also lacking.

It also makes a number of assumptions: that people are tested four days after the initiation of symptoms, and that detection rates are constant over time.

Their takeaway is also that we must substantially improve detection before easing restrictions, lest a new outbreak occur.