***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[jdubya]

Just got off the phone with a longtime friend whose daughter is an ICU nurse. She told him that all patients who die in the ICU whether it be from Neuro issues to heart attacks or to chronic diseases all need to be blood tested for C19 and if they test positive regardless of symptoms or not, COD is to be documented as C19. We may never truly know the accuracy of how many this disease truly takes but i would venture the death rate for C19 is padded for sure. How much? who knows?

[Monty]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Are they all Jayhawk fans?





Asking for a friend...

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Just got off the phone with a longtime friend whose daughter is an ICU nurse. She told him that all patients who die in the ICU whether it be from Neuro issues to heart attacks or to chronic diseases all need to be blood tested for C19 and if they test positive regardless of symptoms or not, COD is to be documented as C19. We may never truly know the accuracy of how many this disease truly takes but i would venture the death rate for C19 is padded for sure. How much? who knows?

Must be a contract year I guess.

[Ghost of Maslowski]

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...04072020-2.pdf

[KS Smitty]

Yeah, Kansans being smart...


The Geary County Health Department announced on their Facebook page Tuesday afternoon, confirmation of a fourth positive case of coronavirus in the county.
The fourth person to test positive is a 55 year old female, currently in isolation in her residence in Geary County.
All people who had direct contact with this individual have been contacted and have been isolated and are being monitored.
The individual did travel to public places while her symptoms were mild. On Thursday, March 26, 2020, the individual visited Junction City's Neighborhood Walmart between 10:00 and 10:20 am.
She then traveled to Manhattan, and was in Aldi's between 11:00am and 11;30am, finishing the visit in Manhattan at Menards between 11:40am and 12:30pm.
The individual returned to Junction City and visited Dillons between 1:00pm and 2:00pm.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Ghost of Maslowski

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/down...04072020-2.pdf

Three cases of "sex unknown"? I'm guessing those are all from Queens...

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Yeah, Kansans being smart...


The Geary County Health Department announced on their Facebook page Tuesday afternoon, confirmation of a fourth positive case of coronavirus in the county.
The fourth person to test positive is a 55 year old female, currently in isolation in her residence in Geary County.
All people who had direct contact with this individual have been contacted and have been isolated and are being monitored.
The individual did travel to public places while her symptoms were mild. On Thursday, March 26, 2020, the individual visited Junction City's Neighborhood Walmart between 10:00 and 10:20 am.
She then traveled to Manhattan, and was in Aldi's between 11:00am and 11;30am, finishing the visit in Manhattan at Menards between 11:40am and 12:30pm.
The individual returned to Junction City and visited Dillons between 1:00pm and 2:00pm.

Good lord

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Yeah, Kansans being smart...


The Geary County Health Department announced on their Facebook page Tuesday afternoon, confirmation of a fourth positive case of coronavirus in the county.
The fourth person to test positive is a 55 year old female, currently in isolation in her residence in Geary County.
All people who had direct contact with this individual have been contacted and have been isolated and are being monitored.
The individual did travel to public places while her symptoms were mild. On Thursday, March 26, 2020, the individual visited Junction City's Neighborhood Walmart between 10:00 and 10:20 am.
She then traveled to Manhattan, and was in Aldi's between 11:00am and 11;30am, finishing the visit in Manhattan at Menards between 11:40am and 12:30pm.
The individual returned to Junction City and visited Dillons between 1:00pm and 2:00pm.

Just doing her part for the herd immunity lol

[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Just got off the phone with a longtime friend whose daughter is an ICU nurse. She told him that all patients who die in the ICU whether it be from Neuro issues to heart attacks or to chronic diseases all need to be blood tested for C19 and if they test positive regardless of symptoms or not, COD is to be documented as C19. We may never truly know the accuracy of how many this disease truly takes but i would venture the death rate for C19 is padded for sure. How much? who knows?

There are real reasons behind this and padding is not one of them.

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

There are real reasons behind this and padding is not one of them.

Is it 5g?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Donger

Looks like we'll end up with ~29,000 new cases today. Close to 2,000 deaths. We knew this was coming, but damn, that's a lot of people. We lost 2,400 Americans at Pearl Harbor.

Why the need to compare the # of COVID-19 deaths to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 (as some in the media are doing)?

Seems like an unnecessary comparison when you consider deaths from the seasonal flu this year... 29,000 to 59,000 Americans since October according to the CDC... are also more than the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 death counts.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

There are real reasons behind this and padding is not one of them.

Cant "padding stats" be for any reason at all? Do tell please

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Cant "padding stats" be for any reason at all? Do tell please

What would a Dr gain by padding the stats.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Why the need to compare the # of COVID-19 deaths to Pearl Harbor or 9/11 (as some in the media are doing)?

Seems like an unnecessary comparison when you consider deaths from the seasonal flu this year... 29,000 to 59,000 Americans since October according to the CDC... are also more than the Pearl Harbor and 9/11 death counts.

A seasonal flu with no distancing measures applied where there was no point where almost 2000 people died of said flu in a single day.

[FloridaMan88]

While the Mayor of Chicago is enforcing the city’s rigid social distancing measures with fines/arrests, apparently she still finds time to get a haircut.

Can anyone else in Chicago currently get a professional haircut?

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/49...id-coronavirus

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) defended a haircut she received this weekend despite barbershops and salons being closed due to stay-at-home state mandates.

The mayor was criticized for her actions after previously saying, "Getting your roots done is not essential," according to the Chicago Tribune.

"I'm the public face of this city," she said in defense of the haircut. "I'm on national media, and I'm out in the public eye."

Lightfoot added, "The woman who cut my hair had a mask and gloves on so we are, I am practicing what I'm preaching."