***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He means war, it's how we got out of the great depression.

We were out of the Great Depression long before we entered WWII.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Altuve already knows his results.

The Astros are probably ignoring HIPPA and rifling through the entire league's medical records somehow.

[BWillie]

I hate that I'm betting on this, but there will be AT LEAST 125k USA deaths. And that is low. If you think Im full of shit and it will be less than that, lets bet on it at any amount of money that you want.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I hate that I'm betting on this, but there will be AT LEAST 125k USA deaths. And that is low. If you think Im full of shit and it will be less than that, lets bet on it at any amount you want.

(at the gates of heaven)

"But you don't understand, Peter. It was easy money"

[banyon]

Originally Posted by patteeu

The Astros are probably ignoring HIPPA and rifling through the entire league's medical records somehow.

If there’s a positive result, you bang on the trash can twice and give the player the rigged thermometer.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Which is why you don't want to open up too soon. It would cost too many lives. It shouldn't be that much longer till the President will start slowly opening things back up. Just a little more patience.

Looking around today as I drive to my "essential" job, what is closed other than malls, bars and retail clothing?

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Altuve already knows his results.

He’ll just throw them in one of the trash cans they have lying around there.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Looking around today as I drive to my "essential" job, what is closed other than malls, bars and retail clothing?

Offices, conferences, sporting events, and concerts are all big issues.

[petegz28]

Needless to say today was literally the worst for new deaths. However, new cases are looking to hold to the same or less than yesterday.

[Titty Meat]

Not happening

https://twitter.com/business/status/...598776832?s=19

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Offices, conferences, sporting events, and concerts are all big issues.

gyms, nail and tanning salons and even a lot of restaurants have decided to just call it quits for the duration.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Missouri numbers yesterday (According to MO DHSS website)

Cases in Missouri: 4,388

Total Deaths: 114

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 47,680
As of 2:00 p.m. CT, April 13

Missouri numbers today

Cases in Missouri: 4,686

Total Deaths: 133

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 47,680 (not yet updated for 4/14/20

Missouri testing numbers only up to 48,803 today. The number of tests per day has dropped. Wonder if that's because there's not the need for as many, they are backed up, etc?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Not happening

https://twitter.com/business/status/...598776832?s=19

Sometimes you have to wonder if these people have any grasp on reality or not?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I hate that I'm betting on this, but there will be AT LEAST 125k USA deaths. And that is low. If you think Im full of shit and it will be less than that, lets bet on it at any amount of money that you want.

Over how long a period of time?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

The fear isn't that the kids get it, it's that they're vectors that can take it and spread it around once they get home. I would imagine there are studies being undertaken to see if that's the case or not with this one.

Fall semester is still a ways off so I don't think it's pertinent to be making any decisions on it at this point anyway.

So I’m not saying make a decision for an entire state or even an entire school district.

I’m saying they should do some tightly controlled studies.

Choose maybe 10 or 20 grade schools. Give individual teachers and individual parents 100% option to stay home/online or go back to the school.

Since it isn’t that many schools you could literally test every teacher and every kid every couple of weeks. Even if the number of tests are limited nationally I think you could swing it for a relatively small study.

If cases spike shut it down.

If results are mixed that seems like it would be really useful information to have for next fall.

Maybe it will be impossible to open grade schools without a vaccine. But how do you know if you don’t try some small experiments?